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RBarryYoung SSC Guru Points: 143329 More actions · Answer 1

Lynn Pettis (12/15/2008)
Jeff Moden (12/15/2008)
Just to be sure... you're a heck of a better man than me, Lynn... I looked at your posts and you were quite the gentleman in explaining the facts of life as well as solving his problem.
Me... I was loading up on the pork chops.... I just have no such tolerance for arrogance. 😉
You learn a lot of self-control when you officiate youth soccer. Actually, I'd say that about any sport.

I've become convinced that it's raising kids that does it. Twenty years of that and something simple like say, international diplomacy, is a walk in the park.

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004441 More actions · Answer 2

rbarryyoung (12/15/2008)
Lynn Pettis (12/15/2008)
Jeff Moden (12/15/2008)
Just to be sure... you're a heck of a better man than me, Lynn... I looked at your posts and you were quite the gentleman in explaining the facts of life as well as solving his problem.
Me... I was loading up on the pork chops.... I just have no such tolerance for arrogance. 😉
You learn a lot of self-control when you officiate youth soccer. Actually, I'd say that about any sport.
I've become convinced that it's raising kids that does it. Twenty years of that and something simple like say, international diplomacy, is a walk in the park.

Must be something else... I raised two kids... even did the Cub Scout and Boy Scout thing and a whole bunch of other things that gave me a pretty good tolerance for stupid and arrogant people while I was raising them. It was a great sigh of relief when I no longer had to use such restraint on people who showed no such restraint themselves.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 3

Jeff Moden (12/15/2008)
rbarryyoung (12/15/2008)
Lynn Pettis (12/15/2008)
Jeff Moden (12/15/2008)
Just to be sure... you're a heck of a better man than me, Lynn... I looked at your posts and you were quite the gentleman in explaining the facts of life as well as solving his problem.
Me... I was loading up on the pork chops.... I just have no such tolerance for arrogance. 😉
You learn a lot of self-control when you officiate youth soccer. Actually, I'd say that about any sport.
I've become convinced that it's raising kids that does it. Twenty years of that and something simple like say, international diplomacy, is a walk in the park.
Must be something else... I raised two kids... even did the Cub Scout and Boy Scout thing and a whole bunch of other things that gave me a pretty good tolerance for stupid and arrogant people while I was raising them. It was a great sigh of relief when I no longer had to use such restraint on people who showed no such restraint themselves.

Maybe. My oldest is 18 and my youngest 10. Of course in 8 years I'll be closer to 60, so I amy not care much more then.

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398916 More actions · Answer 4

Jeff Moden (12/15/2008)

Must be something else... I raised two kids... even did the Cub Scout and Boy Scout thing and a whole bunch of other things that gave me a pretty good tolerance for stupid and arrogant people while I was raising them. It was a great sigh of relief when I no longer had to use such restraint on people who showed no such restraint themselves.

Damn. Here I was hoping that all this Scouting stuff would help me as well as the spawn. No such luck, huh?

I've officiated at karate matches. Some of the parents get truly obnoxious when little Timmy or Suzy get low scores or miss a point.

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ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 5

Is it just me or are there a lot of TSQL 101 posts at the mo? Must be start-of-term.

I've heard a rumour that the next version of SQL Server will feature a novel non-logged method for "clearing tables" and will have a new sample db called "Southwind". Microsoft are investigating spelling of the new command.

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Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004441 More actions · Answer 6

Grant Fritchey (12/16/2008)
I've officiated at karate matches. Some of the parents get truly obnoxious when little Timmy or Suzy get low scores or miss a point.

Did that too. The most difficult stuff to judge is kata... it's like judging a dance competition... put all the flair and flash in that you want, if you can't do the basics, you get a low score and the parents don't understand why.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004441 More actions · Answer 7

Heh... maybe that's it... I've put up with stupid, rude, and arrogant people so long, since the kids have been gone I just don't have any room left for it anymore.

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398916 More actions · Answer 8

Jeff Moden (12/16/2008)
Did that too. The most difficult stuff to judge is kata... it's like judging a dance competition... put all the flair and flash in that you want, if you can't do the basics, you get a low score and the parents don't understand why.

Oh yeah. I like to count strikes. TWIRL, TWIRL, TWIRL, TWIRL, flip, split, TWIRL, TWIRL, strike, TWIRL, TWIRL...

That's 1.

I actually said to one parent after giving their baton twirling, uh, I mean bo handling, son a low score, "You do know that this is meant to be a martial art, right?"

Most of the really serious competitors are smart enough to know that there are cranky old cusses like me who think that learning how to use a weapon as, you know, a weapon, will help your score.

I haven't seen it yet, but my instructor talks about people that flip katana (demonstration specific, made out of lightweight aluminum with no edge) into the air and they catch it by the blade. Then they wonder why he gives them a bad score. He offered once to get his blade out of the car and let the guy try the same move... he was turned down.

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736642 More actions · Answer 9

I always figured in sparring if I hit a little harder I'd get the point :). Usually gets awarded when the other guy gives a "whoosh"

Glad you guys never reffed me in soccer. We used to have to play as an alternative to rugby some days. Our coach said it would teach us coordination. I think it taught us how to move people out of the way 😛

All that stuff helps you with developers. If you can listen to parents whining about their kids, you ought to be able to deal with a couple RBAR lovers!

I have to say Cub Scouts has worked out well here in the country. A nice, medium sized group, lots of good parents.

Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 10

Grant Fritchey (12/16/2008)
I actually said to one parent after giving their baton twirling, uh, I mean bo handling, son a low score, "You do know that this is meant to be a martial art, right?"

I am sooo glad my style's noncompetative. Judging gradings is hard enough.

I had a student just two weeks back ask why they had failed their grading. Perhaps the fact that I had to get up and demonstrate one throw in the middle of the grading had something to do with it. That's tolerable at 6th kyu (lowest grade we have), but not at 4th.

I haven't seen it yet, but my instructor talks about people that flip katana (demonstration specific, made out of lightweight aluminum with no edge) into the air and they catch it by the blade.

Now that's just stupid.

Something I saw a lot when I started was people spinning their bokken 'highlander-style' (spin it to your right and behind and then back to the front, holding the hilt with 2 fingers)

Very stupid. Firstly the blade's pointing behind you during that, and with an opponent in front it means you will get stabbed. Second you've got no grip during the spin and one strike will knock the bokken across the room.

My sensei used to demonstrate both on anyone he saw doing that.

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Steve Jones - SSC Editor SSC Guru Points: 736642 More actions · Answer 11

GilaMonster (12/16/2008)Firstly the blade's pointing behind you during that, and with an opponent in front it means you will get stabbed.

Yeah, I'd prefer not to get stabbed. Remind me to stay away from you and sharp objects.

Grant Fritchey SSC Guru Points: 398916 More actions · Answer 12

GilaMonster (12/16/2008)
Grant Fritchey (12/16/2008)
I actually said to one parent after giving their baton twirling, uh, I mean bo handling, son a low score, "You do know that this is meant to be a martial art, right?"
I am sooo glad my style's noncompetative. Judging gradings is hard enough.
I had a student just two weeks back ask why they had failed their grading. Perhaps the fact that I had to get up and demonstrate one throw in the middle of the grading had something to do with it. That's tolerable at 6th kyu (lowest grade we have), but not at 4th.
I haven't seen it yet, but my instructor talks about people that flip katana (demonstration specific, made out of lightweight aluminum with no edge) into the air and they catch it by the blade.
Now that's just stupid.
Something I saw a lot when I started was people spinning their bokken 'highlander-style' (spin it to your right and behind and then back to the front, holding the hilt with 2 fingers)
Very stupid. Firstly the blade's pointing behind you during that, and with an opponent in front it means you will get stabbed. Second you've got no grip during the spin and one strike will knock the bokken across the room.
My sensei used to demonstrate both on anyone he saw doing that.

I don't compete myself and I limit my judging in competitions to working for my shihan. Other than that, it makes me way too ill watching all that twirling, jumping, crap. It reminds me of the Daffy Duck cartoon where he's whipping the quarterstaff at 100000 rpm and Porky hits it with a toothpick, because that's about how effective most of these people would be with these weapons.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt

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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 13

Here's another one that needs some help in asking questions. Not a twit, I just don't think he knows what he's after.

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic620018-360-1.aspx

Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

We walk in the dark places no others will enter
We stand on the bridge and no one may pass

Lynn Pettis SSC Guru Points: 442467 More actions · Answer 14

Well, looks like Jeff's twit logged on today, but I haven't heard squat regarding the code I provided. I guess the first pork chop Jeff gets to launch is at me.

If I don't see anything by the end of the day, I guess I add him to the "Don't Help This One" list.

Jeff Moden SSC Guru Points: 1004441 More actions · Answer 15

Steve Jones - Editor (12/16/2008)
you ought to be able to deal with a couple RBAR lovers!

Heh... yep... high velocity pork chops... bone in...:P

--Jeff Moden

RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.

Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally)