December 19, 2011 at 8:03 am
OMG, we have a shark on the group! Lutz has been eaten by a shark!
(Eat both squares, please)....
[/weirdmood]
Yes, it has been one of those mornings.
December 19, 2011 at 8:15 am
Brandie Tarvin (12/19/2011)
OMG, we have a shark on the group! Lutz has been eaten by a shark!(Eat both squares, please)....
[/weirdmood]
Yes, it has been one of those mornings.
I wasn't planning on being eaten by a shark this morning, but if you insist ....
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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December 19, 2011 at 8:18 am
Brandie Tarvin (12/19/2011)
OMG, we have a shark on the group! Lutz has been eaten by a shark!(Eat both squares, please)....
[/weirdmood]
Yes, it has been one of those mornings.
You have been watching too many snickers commercials.
-Ki
December 19, 2011 at 8:49 am
LutzM Posted Today @ 9:07 AM
Hmmm.... interesting....
Based on the (almost public available) age of the two fellows you're somewhat between 14 and 16 years old. Hard to believe that you've been working all those years since Kindergarden (2011-1970 aprrox. 40, / 4 (factor of experience) = 10 years of experience, brings it down to the age of 4 to 6 when you started to gain "real" IT experience.)
LutzM - now, now you have never heard Jeff Moden calling me 3 days older than dirt... for shame...
Now click and look at my profile - it contains my DOB -- and when you see it execute the DATEDIFF function, then after that come on back ...
December 19, 2011 at 8:53 am
bitbucket-25253 (12/19/2011)
LutzM Posted Today @ 9:07 AM
Hmmm.... interesting....
Based on the (almost public available) age of the two fellows you're somewhat between 14 and 16 years old. Hard to believe that you've been working all those years since Kindergarden (2011-1970 aprrox. 40, / 4 (factor of experience) = 10 years of experience, brings it down to the age of 4 to 6 when you started to gain "real" IT experience.)
LutzM - now, now you have never heard Jeff Moden calling me 3 days older than dirt... for shame...
Now click and look at my profile - it contains my DOB -- and when you see it execute the DATEDIFF function, then after that come on back ...
Blimey Ron, 79 years old! If there's a long-service medal here on SSC, you deserve it.
For better assistance in answering your questions, please read this[/url].
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins[/url] / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url] Jeff Moden[/url]
December 19, 2011 at 8:55 am
I'm enjoying the "I started back when" converstations. I didn't start professionally until the late 80s, but since my mother went back to college to add a CS degree to her English degree I started using computers back in the late 70s. We had a printer terminal hookup to the Princeton mainframe and I got to use it a bit, mostly to play Net Trek and learn a little about programming. Thanks to her getting that degree I've used cradle modems, punch cards and the like. We had a computer of some sort in the house constantly from that point on.
Those of you who have been talking about the first machines you used in the industry, what was it that got you to that point in the first place? Engineering degrees? Being the only one in the workplace willing to learn?
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What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
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December 19, 2011 at 9:01 am
Well, I started in '67. Breathing, that is. I was lucky enough to start playing with computers in '78 and we actually had keys to punch, and tapes to store data on.
December 19, 2011 at 9:04 am
Revenant (12/18/2011)
L' Eomot Inversé (12/18/2011)
. . . Perhaps it would be good to get together, preferably somewhere with a good range of whiskies. . . . But I'm based in Puerto del Carmen these days, and don't plan to be back in the UK until May (but then will be there for between 4 and 5 months, unless Ann wants to go on holiday somewhere else for a few weeks). Whereabouts are you - it may be a long time before we eventually and finally meet.I am in Redmond. There is a nice whiskey bar, Lot No.3, in Bellevue. They have a good selection, although some brands may set you back $25 per shot.
I plan to take some time off in 2012 and go to Europe, so I might fly via London and stay there for a few days.
There's a whisky bar in Soho, London, just off Soho Square. Milroy's. I've been going there on and off for about ten years. It's changed face a few times and now it's not at its' best, though still hot with a couple of hundred different single malts. You can pay up to about £40 (possibly more now) for a shot of something rare. I prefer two or three shots of something which doesn't require a mortgage for a bottle, and settled on Ardbeg as favourite a few years ago.
For better assistance in answering your questions, please read this[/url].
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins[/url] / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url] Jeff Moden[/url]
December 19, 2011 at 9:08 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (12/19/2011)
Well, I started in '67. Breathing, that is. I was lucky enough to start playing with computers in '78 and we actually had keys to punch, and tapes to store data on.
My breathing started in 68, playing with computers right around the same time. : -)
EDIT: The same time you started playing with computers, not the same time I started breathing...
One of those mornings indeed.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
December 19, 2011 at 9:13 am
Stefan Krzywicki Posted Today @ 10:55 AM
Those of you who have been talking about the first machines you used in the industry, what was it that got you to that point in the first place? Engineering degrees? Being the only one in the workplace willing to learn?
First: An engineering degree (Bachelor of Science - Mechanical Engineering).
Second: Being too darn lazy perfrom the necessary calculations required for rocket engine design by using my slide rule.
Third: When I completed all the necessary calculations, built the engine, and it worked -- every other engineer in the development laboratory (about 90) begin to learn Fortran programming and use the 1401 to solve their problems.
Those older IBM machines were nicknamed "Big Iron". If youd like to view what was a typical installation of a 709 try this site.
For even more information try this IBM site:
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_2423PH709.html
December 19, 2011 at 9:27 am
I don't think I should say anything about when I started, or there may be overripe pawpaw coming in my general direction.
Edit: And for those who may not know what a pawpaw (or papaya) looks like, seeing as it is a tropical fruit:
I've seen them almost 30cm long in the shops here.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
December 19, 2011 at 9:31 am
bitbucket-25253 (12/19/2011)
. . . Being too darn lazy perfrom the necessary calculations required for rocket engine design by using my slide rule. . . .
Yes, we are the last crop of engineers who were taught slide rule calculations. I have not used since I left the school.
December 19, 2011 at 9:33 am
GilaMonster (12/19/2011)
I don't think I should say anything about when I started, or there may be overripe pawpaw coming in my general direction.
You're just a kid, though since you can probably throw everyone on the forum across the room, I doubt anything will be throw your way.
December 19, 2011 at 9:34 am
Stefan Krzywicki Posted Today @ 10:55 AM
Those of you who have been talking about the first machines you used in the industry, what was it that got you to that point in the first place? Engineering degrees? Being the only one in the workplace willing to learn?
Fascinated kid. Saw a machine somewhere in a store, wanted one. Got caught up in trying to make things appear on the screen, then was amazed how it could calculate things for me that I had to do by hand. Used computers all through high school to help do science project calculations.
December 19, 2011 at 9:43 am
Ah yes, I well remember the first time I started breathing! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
As for first using a computer in a professional capacity (I'm assuming video games in an arcade don't count for this discussion), that was somewhat more recent. Yes, definitely more recent than breathing. That seems to be a pattern here, anyone else notice that?
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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