December 10, 2011 at 5:09 pm
SQL Kiwi (12/10/2011)
GilaMonster (12/10/2011)
Go listen to this. Seriously. http://dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=690Seriously? You want me to spend 45 minutes listening to someone talk about Agile development with .NET?
That episode has nothing to do with Agile development or .Net.
I'm going to assume you just read the show title, not the summary or any of the comments.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
December 10, 2011 at 5:32 pm
SQL Kiwi (12/10/2011)
Dev (12/10/2011)
Paul's Time Travel :Whistling: (see the attachment)Yes, I had an email today saying it would be republished on that date (no doubt you saw my post about that). SSC is weird.
Bug logged, been there for awhile, not sure when I can get someone to clean up the code. It's a low priority bug.
December 10, 2011 at 5:34 pm
GilaMonster (12/10/2011)
SQL Kiwi (12/10/2011)
GilaMonster (12/10/2011)
Go listen to this. Seriously. http://dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=690Seriously? You want me to spend 45 minutes listening to someone talk about Agile development with .NET?
That episode has nothing to do with Agile development or .Net.
I'm going to assume you just read the show title, not the summary or any of the comments.
I listened to around the 22 minute mark before I gave up on it and got on with my day. For anyone that wants some indication of what lies on the other side of the link before they go there:
690 JD Meier Gets Results the Agile Way
Carl and Richard talk to JD Meier from Microsoft about leading an agile life. JD talks about how he learned to be effective as a product manager at Microsoft, and how that lead to developing the Agile Life book. It may have a developer undertone, but the Agile Life is aimed at everyone.JD recently joined the Microsoft Enterprise Strategy team. Before that, he was a Principal Program Manager on the Microsoft patterns & practices team for more than ten years, leading distributed teams around the world, building software and prescriptive guidance. During that time, JD shipped several "blue books" including Improving Web Application Security, Improving .NET Application Performance and Scalability, and the Microsoft Architecture Guide. The blue books are prescriptive guidance to help customers succeed on the Microsoft platform. His first non-technical book is Getting Results the Agile Way, which is a personal results system that helps you make the most of what you've got.
Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi
December 10, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (12/10/2011)
SQL Kiwi (12/10/2011)
Dev (12/10/2011)
Paul's Time Travel :Whistling: (see the attachment)Yes, I had an email today saying it would be republished on that date (no doubt you saw my post about that). SSC is weird.
Bug logged, been there for awhile, not sure when I can get someone to clean up the code. It's a low priority bug.
It would be a shame if it were ever fixed. Part of SSC's character now, the time-travelling articles and QotDs 😀
Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi
December 11, 2011 at 6:11 am
SQL Kiwi (12/10/2011)
I listened to around the 22 minute mark before I gave up on it and got on with my day.
You are clearly a more patient person than me, or maybe I'm just getting less prepared to waste my time as I get older. I lasted just nine minutes (I knew the presenters were not someone I wanted to listen to before they got to the end of their 354 (!!) second introduction, but thought I should give the guest a chance to say something so gave him 3 minutes. He didn't (say something) in those three minutes. This isn't strictly relevant as it isn't a meeting, but it really feels apposite.
And Paul, why reproduce the on-site blurb (which was recited by one of the commentations about 4 minutes in) which we could all read whan we went to the link Gail provided? I can't believe that you have become a card carrying member of the TWM association!
Tom
December 11, 2011 at 8:52 pm
L' Eomot Inversé (12/11/2011)
You are clearly a more patient person than me, or maybe I'm just getting less prepared to waste my time as I get older.
That's probably not generally true. It just so happened that it was a nice sunny day, so I was able to take the laptop out into the sunshine and sort-of listen to it burbling away while I looked around at the scenery and watched a glider floating around in the sky above.
I lasted just nine minutes (I knew the presenters were not someone I wanted to listen to before they got to the end of their 354 (!!) second introduction, but thought I should give the guest a chance to say something so gave him 3 minutes. He didn't (say something) in those three minutes. This isn't strictly relevant as it isn't a meeting, but it really feels apposite.
Quality use of Dilbert there. Hats off.
And Paul, why reproduce the on-site blurb (which was recited by one of the commentations about 4 minutes in) which we could all read whan we went to the link Gail provided? I can't believe that you have become a card carrying member of the TWM association!
Essentially because I followed the link not knowing what to expect. I half-expected the link to contain something amusing, maybe a parody of some description. I sure could have read the introduction (but as mentioned it was a sunny day, and it's not so easy to read text in sunshine through sunglasses) or the comments (though I rarely scroll down to read comments before reading/listening to content), but I clicked on the audio player thing instead. To really go into more detail than you need, I saw the SSC link inside (where text was easy readable) so I probably could have wasted 22 minutes in a different way had a summary been present there. So, for anyone in the exact same sunshine-related circumstances as me, I hope I provided some sort of public service by reproducing the blurb.
I'm afraid I don't know what the TWM association is, but it sounds like I wouldn't want to be a member 🙂
Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi
December 11, 2011 at 11:42 pm
What do you guys think of this:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1219134-364-1.aspx#bm1219795
I ask for more info, he gives a link to a site, which my company firewall immediately marks as suspicious.
Need an answer? No, you need a question
My blog at https://sqlkover.com.
MCSE Business Intelligence - Microsoft Data Platform MVP
December 12, 2011 at 12:01 am
Koen Verbeeck (12/11/2011)
What do you guys think of this:http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1219134-364-1.aspx#bm1219795
I ask for more info, he gives a link to a site, which my company firewall immediately marks as suspicious.
The link itself is perfectly safe, it just contains some screen shots that I presume illustrate his question.
Paul White
SQLPerformance.com
SQLkiwi blog
@SQL_Kiwi
December 12, 2011 at 12:59 am
SQL Kiwi (12/12/2011)
Koen Verbeeck (12/11/2011)
What do you guys think of this:http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1219134-364-1.aspx#bm1219795
I ask for more info, he gives a link to a site, which my company firewall immediately marks as suspicious.
The link itself is perfectly safe, it just contains some screen shots that I presume illustrate his question.
Ah OK. So it's just the company firewall that's a bit overreactive.
Need an answer? No, you need a question
My blog at https://sqlkover.com.
MCSE Business Intelligence - Microsoft Data Platform MVP
December 12, 2011 at 2:57 am
GilaMonster (12/10/2011)
Cadavre (12/9/2011)
Sorry if it feels like I'm pestering you Gail, I just like to understand why. For me, what you're describing contradicts what I believed as the why, so I want to understand 🙂I didn't spend much time investigating the why. The real code was more complex, so likely something got lost in the simplification.
I do have a QotD based on it that I might submit, maybe 2.
Look forward to it! I've tried a few ways of reproducing and can't. So I guess you're correct that the simplification lost some nuance of the original code.
December 12, 2011 at 7:34 am
From today's ToDo: Catch up on missed week in The Thread done
Had a good week. Looks like I didn't miss too much here. Brandi and Gail trying to do impossible things in code with less success than expected, people losing and gaining jobs in Redmond, trying to decide which DBA you want to evict from the planet, and an alien invasion that destroyed all of Kansas after a nuclear strike from US and Russian submarines on the alien foothold in Wichita ... or am I mixing media again?
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
Property of The Thread
"Nobody knows the age of the human race, but everyone agrees it's old enough to know better." - Anon
December 12, 2011 at 7:55 am
WayneS (12/9/2011)
Hmmm. I think I just found a bug in SQL 2012 - one of the new Analytic functions returns a different value when called from within a cte. Anyone willing to test it to verify it? Please PM me, and I'll send sample code.Edit: Just posted a Connect bug for this, which has the code to reproduce (requires AdventureWorks2008R2 database from the CodePlex Denali download). Please go vote this up so it can get fixed before RTM.
+1, nice catch
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December 12, 2011 at 9:05 am
jcrawf02 (12/12/2011)
WayneS (12/9/2011)
Hmmm. I think I just found a bug in SQL 2012 - one of the new Analytic functions returns a different value when called from within a cte. Anyone willing to test it to verify it? Please PM me, and I'll send sample code.Edit: Just posted a Connect bug for this, which has the code to reproduce (requires AdventureWorks2008R2 database from the CodePlex Denali download). Please go vote this up so it can get fixed before RTM.
+1, nice catch
Nah, it just fell into my lap. I was working out a problem, moved what I had into a cte, did a select * from the cte (to get ready for the next stage), and got different results than what I had just seen.
Thanks for the up-vote.
Wayne
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
Author - SQL Server T-SQL Recipes
December 12, 2011 at 9:46 am
WayneS (12/12/2011)
jcrawf02 (12/12/2011)
WayneS (12/9/2011)
Hmmm. I think I just found a bug in SQL 2012 - one of the new Analytic functions returns a different value when called from within a cte. Anyone willing to test it to verify it? Please PM me, and I'll send sample code.Edit: Just posted a Connect bug for this, which has the code to reproduce (requires AdventureWorks2008R2 database from the CodePlex Denali download). Please go vote this up so it can get fixed before RTM.
+1, nice catch
Nah, it just fell into my lap. I was working out a problem, moved what I had into a cte, did a select * from the cte (to get ready for the next stage), and got different results than what I had just seen.
Thanks for the up-vote.
+1
December 12, 2011 at 11:22 am
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (12/9/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (12/9/2011)
Oh, it's not a thread. I didn't post on this. I just found it and put a dent in my desk the shape of my head.
Brandie?
Can't watch it at work. Will have to wait until later this evening. But I find myself wondering how much bad grammar and nightmare code I'll have to inflict on Steve after seeing it. @=)
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