November 21, 2011 at 7:17 am
Greg Edwards-268690 (11/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
1 more piece of information about my mindset.Either they fix it for me and I live there, or they burn down the house nobody has to risk living there.
This is a it depends questions, but the outcome
(s)a real simple imho.I was thinking if you push, maybe they would just condemn it.
Then the risk is decided for you.
Good time to start looking at other places, just in case.
That's what I liked about that option too. Someone who is neutral & cares about me takes the decision and he's THE expert. Not my fears, not their wallet and not whatever <garbage> I find on the net.
Already started looking for somewhere else to live as well.
November 21, 2011 at 7:18 am
Have you seen Tom thomsons new avatar?
Looks like the operation was a success.
Of course soon as he changes it (again) this post will look stupid.
😀
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November 21, 2011 at 7:18 am
jcrawf02 (11/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
jcrawf02 (11/21/2011)
Yeah, move. Not worth it.This question is worth 20K / year on the low end. This is not so black or white for me.
And how much are your lungs worth?
I get your point, but my lungs are not worth any more than the poor folk(s) who'll be moving in next with a major rent raise because of all the "improvements" just made to the house.
November 21, 2011 at 7:27 am
george sibbald (11/21/2011)
Have you seen Tom thomsons new avatar?Looks like the operation was a success.
Of course soon as he changes it (again) this post will look stupid.
😀
Nope, I 100% agree. He looks 100 years younger and lots more attractive. Of course I preffer women than men for some weird reasons! 😀
November 21, 2011 at 7:50 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
jcrawf02 (11/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
jcrawf02 (11/21/2011)
Yeah, move. Not worth it.This question is worth 20K / year on the low end. This is not so black or white for me.
And how much are your lungs worth?
I get your point, but my lungs are not worth any more than the poor folk(s) who'll be moving in next with a major rent raise because of all the "improvements" just made to the house.
noble of you. 🙂 (seriously, not joking)
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November 21, 2011 at 7:54 am
jcrawf02 (11/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
jcrawf02 (11/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
jcrawf02 (11/21/2011)
Yeah, move. Not worth it.This question is worth 20K / year on the low end. This is not so black or white for me.
And how much are your lungs worth?
I get your point, but my lungs are not worth any more than the poor folk(s) who'll be moving in next with a major rent raise because of all the "improvements" just made to the house.
noble of you. 🙂 (seriously, not joking)
There's the easy thing to do and then there's the right thing to do (Dumbledore).
I'd never offer that house as is for any of my friends, especially with children so there's no way this is not getting fixed by correct work, or fire!
<nuclear blast emoticon>.
November 21, 2011 at 7:54 am
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November 21, 2011 at 7:55 am
Jack Corbett (11/21/2011)
Hey, has anyone gotten today's SSC newsletter? Mine's usually in the inbox by 7am EST and nothing yet.
nope...and steves away
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November 21, 2011 at 7:57 am
Jack Corbett (11/21/2011)
Hey, has anyone gotten today's SSC newsletter? Mine's usually in the inbox by 7am EST and nothing yet.
Didn't get it either.
November 21, 2011 at 8:15 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
Hey guys I need your unbiased view of this.I got flooded back in late august (Irene).
FINALLY after 2+ months somebody came in to do the first response (yes 9 weeks first response).
They hauled out all the trash (which used to be my furniture). All of it was rotten since it was made of wood.
A couple days later they came in to take out the bottom of the walls (UNDER the water line) and the floor / subfloor.
There was fungus all over the place from Irene and even way more from previous incidents. Some of them apparently years old (maybe oven 1 decade from the type of fungus found in there).
Now they say they are "done" and ready to rebuild... and obviously arguing on who's going to pay what (not me as I'm renting, but since I live there I feel as I should have some say in the matter and everything I say seems to fall in deaf ears)
What irks me the most here is they didn't rip out everything that was under water (made of wood). There's still plenty of black wood left (rotten from who knows when).
They did an anti fungus round and then left the fans at full blast to dry everything up.
Now what really bothers me is that in their normal procedures they don't do anything air test to make sure they fix is correct. Now to me this looks like insanity at its best.
You need to keep in mind that during the 9 weeks waiting I had 3 separate incidents of leaving unwashed plates with a little spaghetti sauce freshly made from 6 PM on the table at 8 PM and then coming back the very next morning with 50% of it completely taken over by fungus.
I'm not expert but that seems WAY OUT of the "normal".
That was before they did their round of cleaning, now the air seems better. But that's all I have to go on.
I'm now thinking (if not forced) to pay for the test air myself (possibly 1000$ +) while stopping any work and getting the lawyers involved.
Your impressions?
I got flooded just before Irene because the sprinkler system in our complex exploded. They've just finished replacing the walls in the basement, fortunately most of our wood was still good. If the wood is rotten, they should be replacing it. I also wanted to mention one of the little things I learned about anti-mold procedures.
The cleaning stuff I got, to get mold off some of my furniture, says to spray and scrub thoroughly, then spray again and let dry. They also make anti-mold stuff for forced air heat and ac in case you have that.
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November 21, 2011 at 8:17 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
Jack Corbett (11/21/2011)
ChrisM@Work (11/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
Hey guys I need your unbiased view of this....
Your impressions?
Move. Some of these fungi can cause serious respiratory problems. It's not worth taking the risk.
Man, that's a tough one. What's your lease have to say about this kind of thing? I'd think about at least talking to a lawyer so you know what your options are. You could also call in your local health department or building inspector. Of course doing that may mean you will HAVE to move.
Lease is extremelly short. Nothing about that. But in court I would have an argument.
My point is that I have a chance to get it fixed, but I'm like you, I need to be sure it's fixed before considering staying there much longer.
Let your landlord know that the repairs aren't sufficient and that it will destroy the value of the house if it isn't done right. If he says he doesn't care, then tell him you'll be notifying the health department.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
November 21, 2011 at 8:18 am
ChrisM@Work (11/21/2011)
Grant Fritchey (11/21/2011)
Wibble.It won't work without the knickers and pencils;-)
Yeah, got those here.
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November 21, 2011 at 8:18 am
Stefan Krzywicki (11/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
Hey guys I need your unbiased view of this.I got flooded back in late august (Irene).
FINALLY after 2+ months somebody came in to do the first response (yes 9 weeks first response).
They hauled out all the trash (which used to be my furniture). All of it was rotten since it was made of wood.
A couple days later they came in to take out the bottom of the walls (UNDER the water line) and the floor / subfloor.
There was fungus all over the place from Irene and even way more from previous incidents. Some of them apparently years old (maybe oven 1 decade from the type of fungus found in there).
Now they say they are "done" and ready to rebuild... and obviously arguing on who's going to pay what (not me as I'm renting, but since I live there I feel as I should have some say in the matter and everything I say seems to fall in deaf ears)
What irks me the most here is they didn't rip out everything that was under water (made of wood). There's still plenty of black wood left (rotten from who knows when).
They did an anti fungus round and then left the fans at full blast to dry everything up.
Now what really bothers me is that in their normal procedures they don't do anything air test to make sure they fix is correct. Now to me this looks like insanity at its best.
You need to keep in mind that during the 9 weeks waiting I had 3 separate incidents of leaving unwashed plates with a little spaghetti sauce freshly made from 6 PM on the table at 8 PM and then coming back the very next morning with 50% of it completely taken over by fungus.
I'm not expert but that seems WAY OUT of the "normal".
That was before they did their round of cleaning, now the air seems better. But that's all I have to go on.
I'm now thinking (if not forced) to pay for the test air myself (possibly 1000$ +) while stopping any work and getting the lawyers involved.
Your impressions?
I got flooded just before Irene because the sprinkler system in our complex exploded. They've just finished replacing the walls in the basement, fortunately most of our wood was still good. If the wood is rotten, they should be replacing it. I also wanted to mention one of the little things I learned about anti-mold procedures.
The cleaning stuff I got, to get mold off some of my furniture, says to spray and scrub thoroughly, then spray again and let dry. They also make anti-mold stuff for forced air heat and ac in case you have that.
How can you know there's no risk without an air test to confirm? I'm not saying that it's not possible to fix the issue or that the anti-fungi stuff doesn't work...
Sounds borderline magik thinking to me at the moment without a confirmation.
November 21, 2011 at 8:21 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (11/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (11/21/2011)
Hey guys I need your unbiased view of this.I got flooded back in late august (Irene).
FINALLY after 2+ months somebody came in to do the first response (yes 9 weeks first response).
They hauled out all the trash (which used to be my furniture). All of it was rotten since it was made of wood.
A couple days later they came in to take out the bottom of the walls (UNDER the water line) and the floor / subfloor.
There was fungus all over the place from Irene and even way more from previous incidents. Some of them apparently years old (maybe oven 1 decade from the type of fungus found in there).
Now they say they are "done" and ready to rebuild... and obviously arguing on who's going to pay what (not me as I'm renting, but since I live there I feel as I should have some say in the matter and everything I say seems to fall in deaf ears)
What irks me the most here is they didn't rip out everything that was under water (made of wood). There's still plenty of black wood left (rotten from who knows when).
They did an anti fungus round and then left the fans at full blast to dry everything up.
Now what really bothers me is that in their normal procedures they don't do anything air test to make sure they fix is correct. Now to me this looks like insanity at its best.
You need to keep in mind that during the 9 weeks waiting I had 3 separate incidents of leaving unwashed plates with a little spaghetti sauce freshly made from 6 PM on the table at 8 PM and then coming back the very next morning with 50% of it completely taken over by fungus.
I'm not expert but that seems WAY OUT of the "normal".
That was before they did their round of cleaning, now the air seems better. But that's all I have to go on.
I'm now thinking (if not forced) to pay for the test air myself (possibly 1000$ +) while stopping any work and getting the lawyers involved.
Your impressions?
I got flooded just before Irene because the sprinkler system in our complex exploded. They've just finished replacing the walls in the basement, fortunately most of our wood was still good. If the wood is rotten, they should be replacing it. I also wanted to mention one of the little things I learned about anti-mold procedures.
The cleaning stuff I got, to get mold off some of my furniture, says to spray and scrub thoroughly, then spray again and let dry. They also make anti-mold stuff for forced air heat and ac in case you have that.
How can you know there's no risk without an air test to confirm? I'm not saying that it's not possible to fix the issue or that the anti-fungi stuff doesn't work...
Sounds borderline magik thinking to me at the moment without a confirmation.
I'm not saying you shouldn't get an air test, I'm saying that using the anti-mold stuff is more work than spraying and let it dry and that if that is all they did, they probably haven't fixed the problem.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
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