September 22, 2011 at 5:37 am
GilaMonster (9/22/2011)
Jim Murphy (9/21/2011)
And where's Gail? Is she not keeping you guys in line?Doing the final checks and tweaks on Jonathan's book.
Keep this lot in line? How would I ever do that?
I thought that's what you kept those big sticks around for...
-Ki
September 22, 2011 at 5:41 am
Kiara (9/22/2011)
GilaMonster (9/22/2011)
Jim Murphy (9/21/2011)
And where's Gail? Is she not keeping you guys in line?Doing the final checks and tweaks on Jonathan's book.
Keep this lot in line? How would I ever do that?
I thought that's what you kept those big sticks around for...
Sticks or swords? 😀
September 22, 2011 at 6:24 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
Kiara (9/22/2011)
GilaMonster (9/22/2011)
Jim Murphy (9/21/2011)
And where's Gail? Is she not keeping you guys in line?Doing the final checks and tweaks on Jonathan's book.
Keep this lot in line? How would I ever do that?
I thought that's what you kept those big sticks around for...
Sticks or swords? 😀
Yes.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt
Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
September 22, 2011 at 7:53 am
L' Eomot Inversé (9/21/2011)
And from that, if anything over 5% actually understand french.
I suspect less than 5% in USA, but much more than 5% in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Quebec; without knowing the proportion of USA members, can't guess the proportion who understand French.[/quote]No one understands the French.
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"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."
September 22, 2011 at 7:56 am
jcrawf02 (9/22/2011)
L' Eomot Inversé (9/21/2011)
And from that, if anything over 5% actually understand french.I suspect less than 5% in USA, but much more than 5% in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Quebec; without knowing the proportion of USA members, can't guess the proportion who understand French.
No one understands the French.[/quote]
At least I understand the quote system!
And no I'm not french, I just speak it!
September 22, 2011 at 8:00 am
Grant Fritchey (9/22/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
Kiara (9/22/2011)
GilaMonster (9/22/2011)
Jim Murphy (9/21/2011)
And where's Gail? Is she not keeping you guys in line?Doing the final checks and tweaks on Jonathan's book.
Keep this lot in line? How would I ever do that?
I thought that's what you kept those big sticks around for...
Sticks or swords? 😀
Yes.
Exactly.
-Ki
September 22, 2011 at 8:01 am
Kiara (9/22/2011)
Grant Fritchey (9/22/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
Kiara (9/22/2011)
GilaMonster (9/22/2011)
Jim Murphy (9/21/2011)
And where's Gail? Is she not keeping you guys in line?Doing the final checks and tweaks on Jonathan's book.
Keep this lot in line? How would I ever do that?
I thought that's what you kept those big sticks around for...
Sticks or swords? 😀
Yes.
Exactly.
Took the words right out of my mouth!
September 22, 2011 at 8:05 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
jcrawf02 (9/22/2011)
L' Eomot Inversé (9/21/2011)
And from that, if anything over 5% actually understand french.I suspect less than 5% in USA, but much more than 5% in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Quebec; without knowing the proportion of USA members, can't guess the proportion who understand French.
No one understands the French.
At least I understand the quote system!
And no I'm not french, I just speak it![/quote]me mordre :-P:hehe:
that's what I get for trying to edit down the length of the post
**Edit - actually, this may be a bug, that one was just the Quote button?
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How best to post your question[/url]
How to post performance problems[/url]
Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]
"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."
September 22, 2011 at 8:07 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
Kiara (9/22/2011)
Grant Fritchey (9/22/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
Kiara (9/22/2011)
GilaMonster (9/22/2011)
Jim Murphy (9/21/2011)
And where's Gail? Is she not keeping you guys in line?Doing the final checks and tweaks on Jonathan's book.
Keep this lot in line? How would I ever do that?
I thought that's what you kept those big sticks around for...
Sticks or swords? 😀
Yes.
Exactly.
Took the words right out of my mouth!
test **Edit - hmm, nope, just user error. Oh well. Dumb Americans :hehe:
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How best to post your question[/url]
How to post performance problems[/url]
Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]
"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."
September 22, 2011 at 8:10 am
jcrawf02 (9/22/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
Kiara (9/22/2011)
Grant Fritchey (9/22/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
Kiara (9/22/2011)
GilaMonster (9/22/2011)
Jim Murphy (9/21/2011)
And where's Gail? Is she not keeping you guys in line?Doing the final checks and tweaks on Jonathan's book.
Keep this lot in line? How would I ever do that?
I thought that's what you kept those big sticks around for...
Sticks or swords? 😀
Yes.
Exactly.
Took the words right out of my mouth!
test **Edit - hmm, nope, just user error. Oh well. Dumb Americans :hehe:
If it's the system, it only affects you :hehe:!
September 22, 2011 at 8:10 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
jcrawf02 (9/22/2011)
L' Eomot Inversé (9/21/2011)
And from that, if anything over 5% actually understand french.I suspect less than 5% in USA, but much more than 5% in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Quebec; without knowing the proportion of USA members, can't guess the proportion who understand French.
No one understands the French.[ /quote]
At least I understand the quote system!
Really? Despite evidence to the contrary...
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
September 22, 2011 at 8:13 am
GilaMonster (9/22/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/22/2011)
jcrawf02 (9/22/2011)
L' Eomot Inversé (9/21/2011)
And from that, if anything over 5% actually understand french.I suspect less than 5% in USA, but much more than 5% in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Quebec; without knowing the proportion of USA members, can't guess the proportion who understand French.
No one understands the French.[ /quote]
At least I understand the quote system!
Really? Despite evidence to the contrary...
Pôtato, potato.
September 22, 2011 at 9:35 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/21/2011)
SQLRNNR (9/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/21/2011)
SQLRNNR (9/21/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (9/21/2011)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (9/21/2011)
Just a note, in case you didn't see it, Jeff's interview is up: http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Exceptional+DBA+Awards/75986/Forget that crap, this is even better!
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1179084.aspx
CELKO (9/21/2011)
I have posted one other topic and had a fantastic response from Jeff Moden and figured this is the best place to find the absolute final word on best practice approaches. I will certainly be more diligent about forming my question the next time around.
Hey, my wife is an ordained Soto Zen Priest and she hits students with sticks when they screw up.
Oh, Jeff is someone I think is smart, but donot tell him that.
IIRC - it goes both ways on that.
In case I was unclear (AGAIN).
I meant stop the press, Joe CELKO actually made a compliment, ONLINE. I guess that's even better than super duper DBA of the year.
Oh, Jeff is someone I think is smart, but do not tell him that.
Yeah - it reads kinda tongue in cheek though.
From him I would have taken a you son of a B. with a smile as a compliment.
This is way over that!
I don't actually know him well enough to make any kind of a judgement call... and so I won't.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
September 22, 2011 at 9:40 am
ALZDBA (9/22/2011)
Roy Ernest (9/21/2011)
Apologies in advance for the change in topic... 😀I want to do a presentation for the SQL saturday that will be conducted in Curacao. Can I have some suggestions on what topic I should do? DBA tracks are what I know better. 🙂
Basics for indexing. Why your query needs indexes and what it may use them for (not only to support your where clause )
I've spend a series of full day info sessions ( I don't like calling it lessons ) providing an overview do devs for the major things I would like my devs would know.
In many cases, the indexing part was quit an eye opener.
Same goes for loop/cursor avoidance.
Same goes for "first steps with sqlplans" With of course a ref to the great (e)book Grant wrote on that topic.;-)
I did a presentation on SQL plans to our user group. Just the very basics. (Of course I did a big reference to Grants ebook and book). That went pretty good actually. My only concern is that if the questions that arises from the presentation goes pretty deep I am not sure I will be able to answer them with 100% conviction. 🙁
-Roy
September 22, 2011 at 9:45 am
Roy Ernest (9/22/2011)
ALZDBA (9/22/2011)
Roy Ernest (9/21/2011)
Apologies in advance for the change in topic... 😀I want to do a presentation for the SQL saturday that will be conducted in Curacao. Can I have some suggestions on what topic I should do? DBA tracks are what I know better. 🙂
Basics for indexing. Why your query needs indexes and what it may use them for (not only to support your where clause )
I've spend a series of full day info sessions ( I don't like calling it lessons ) providing an overview do devs for the major things I would like my devs would know.
In many cases, the indexing part was quit an eye opener.
Same goes for loop/cursor avoidance.
Same goes for "first steps with sqlplans" With of course a ref to the great (e)book Grant wrote on that topic.;-)
I did a presentation on SQL plans to our user group. Just the very basics. (Of course I did a big reference to Grants ebook and book). That went pretty good actually. My only concern is that if the questions that arises from the presentation goes pretty deep I am not sure I will be able to answer them with 100% conviction. 🙁
Don't worry about 100% conviction. There's nothing at all wrong with saying "This is a huge topic and I'm not entirely sure about this answer, but here are some great resources where you can go look later."
If you have a slide to go with that staetment that has websites and books where they can get most any answer they need for those you aren't sure of, you'll have more than done your job as a presenter.
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