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    GilaMonster (7/29/2011)


    Lavanyasri (7/29/2011)


    I am expecting scripts .. can you provide any scripts to find the missing indexes and frequently used queries ???

    I'm expecting please and thank you, but I'm frequently disappointed.

    There are tonnes of scripts, in the script library here and on the internet in general for missing indexes and half of my article is devoted to finding frequently running queries.

    A quick search will get other scripts for you way faster than waiting for me to search for the scripts and paste them (or their links) in here.

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1149971-146-1.aspx

  • I'm getting way too snide and cynical. Maybe time to take a short forum break again...

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  • GilaMonster (7/29/2011)


    I'm getting way too snide and cynical. Maybe time to take a short forum break again...

    Actually made me laugh...

  • GilaMonster (7/29/2011)


    I'm getting way too snide and cynical. Maybe time to take a short forum break again...

    A little snide and cynical is part of your charm, Gail. 😉

    Shake it off. Have another hot cross bun.

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  • Interesting rant here: http://www.insanit.net/technology/smartphone-rants-3-what-do-i-want-a-real-windows-smartphone-when-do-i-want-it-now/

    Anyone else see the need/value here? I'm struggling to see if this is something that has value.

  • Do you guys(als) know a way to remove the prints from the backup / restore commands?

    This is what I'd like to be gone from the output :

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 99 pages for database 'DemoRecover', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    BACKUP LOG successfully processed 99 pages in 0.037 seconds (21.836 MB/sec).

  • Ninja's_RGR'us (7/29/2011)


    Do you guys(als) know a way to remove the prints from the backup / restore commands?

    This is what I'd like to be gone from the output :

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 99 pages for database 'DemoRecover', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    BACKUP LOG successfully processed 99 pages in 0.037 seconds (21.836 MB/sec).

    AFAIK, you cannot. These are sent along a different stream, and it's up to the client to consume them. If you return a result set, they aren't returned. Aren't these only on the messages tab?

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/29/2011)


    Ninja's_RGR'us (7/29/2011)


    Do you guys(als) know a way to remove the prints from the backup / restore commands?

    This is what I'd like to be gone from the output :

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 99 pages for database 'DemoRecover', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    BACKUP LOG successfully processed 99 pages in 0.037 seconds (21.836 MB/sec).

    AFAIK, you cannot. These are sent along a different stream, and it's up to the client to consume them. If you return a result set, they aren't returned. Aren't these only on the messages tab?

    I'm working on a PIT restore script demo and those messages are a little annoying and ad no (very little) value.

    This is not 100% done but if you guys wanna have a look >>

    Run this in SSMS in text mode and comment this line to be able to run the rest of the demo (runs all in 1 batch)

    ;

    SET NOCOUNT ON

    SET IMPLICIT_TRANSACTIONS OFF

    SET STATISTICS IO, TIME OFF

    SET DATEFORMAT YMD ;

    USE master ;

    CREATE DATABASE DemoRecover

    GO

    ALTER DATABASE DemoRecover SET RECOVERY FULL ;

    USE DemoRecover ;

    CREATE TABLE dbo.DataLoss

    (

    id INT IDENTITY(1 , 1)

    NOT NULL

    PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED

    , dt DATETIME NOT NULL

    ) ;

    PRINT 'Create data before FULL'

    --save the times of the operations

    DECLARE @dtBeforeDelete DATETIME

    INSERT INTO

    dbo.DataLoss ( dt )

    SELECT TOP 1000

    DATEADD(ms , ABS(CHECKSUM(NEWID())) % 86400000 ,

    CONVERT(DATETIME , '2011-07-26')) AS dt

    FROM

    sys.columns C1

    CROSS JOIN sys.columns C2 ;

    BACKUP DATABASE [DemoRecover] TO DISK = N'Q:\Backups SQL\DemoRecover.bak' WITH

    NOFORMAT , INIT , SKIP , STATS = 100 ;

    PRINT ''

    PRINT 'Create data after full'

    PRINT ''

    INSERT INTO

    dbo.DataLoss ( dt )

    SELECT TOP 3000

    DATEADD(ms , ABS(CHECKSUM(NEWID())) % 86400000 * 3 ,

    CONVERT(DATETIME , '2011-07-27')) AS dt

    FROM

    sys.columns C1

    CROSS JOIN sys.columns C2 ;

    SELECT

    COUNT(*) AS RowsPerDay

    , DATEADD(D , 0 , DATEDIFF(D , 0 , dt)) AS dt

    FROM

    dbo.DataLoss

    GROUP BY

    DATEADD(D , 0 , DATEDIFF(D , 0 , dt))

    ORDER BY

    dt

    SET @dtBeforeDelete = GETDATE()

    PRINT ''

    PRINT '@dtBeforeDelete : ' + CONVERT(VARCHAR(23) , @dtBeforeDelete , 126)

    PRINT ''

    WAITFOR DELAY '00:00:01' --1 sec

    PRINT 'Simulate 2 days dataloss'

    SET NOCOUNT OFF

    DELETE

    DL

    FROM

    dbo.DataLoss DL

    WHERE

    DL.dt >= '2011-07-27'

    AND DL.dt < '2011-07-29'

    SET NOCOUNT ON

    PRINT ''

    PRINT ''

    SELECT

    COUNT(*) AS RowsPerDay

    , DATEADD(D , 0 , DATEDIFF(D , 0 , dt)) AS dt

    FROM

    dbo.DataLoss

    GROUP BY

    DATEADD(D , 0 , DATEDIFF(D , 0 , dt))

    ORDER BY

    dt

    BACKUP LOG [DemoRecover] TO DISK = N'Q:\Backups SQL\DemoRecover_log.bak' WITH

    NOFORMAT , INIT , SKIP , STATS = 100 ;

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    PRINT 'Restore the DB under a new name. The standby option let''s me query the DB without losing the ability to recover more logs later on'

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    RESTORE DATABASE [DemoRestoreTable] FROM DISK =

    N'Q:\Backups SQL\DemoRecover.bak' WITH FILE = 1 , MOVE N'DemoRecover' TO

    N'C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\DATA\DemoRestoreTable.mdf'

    , MOVE N'DemoRecover_log' TO

    N'C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\DATA\DemoRestoreTable_1.LDF'

    , STANDBY = N'Q:\Backups SQL\ROLLBACK_UNDO_DemoRestoreTable.BAK' ,

    NOUNLOAD , REPLACE , STATS = 100

    PRINT '' PRINT '';

    DECLARE @selectcmd VARCHAR(1000)

    SET @selectcmd = 'SELECT COUNT(*) AS RowsPerDay, DATEADD(D, 0, DATEDIFF(D, 0, dt)) AS dt FROM DemoRestoreTable.dbo.DataLoss DL GROUP BY DATEADD(D, 0, DATEDIFF(D, 0, dt)) ORDER BY dt'

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    PRINT 'Confirm we''re back to the same point we were before the 2nd insert'

    EXEC (

    @selectcmd

    )

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    PRINT 'The standby mode allows me to now restore the log file(s)'

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    RESTORE LOG [DemoRestoreTable] FROM DISK =

    N'Q:\Backups SQL\DemoRecover_log.bak' WITH FILE = 1 , STANDBY =

    N'Q:\Backups SQL\ROLLBACK_UNDO_DemoRestoreTable.BAK' , NOUNLOAD , STATS =

    100

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    PRINT 'Cool so now we''re back to where we were at the end of the inserts, how do we stop earlier?'

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    EXEC (@selectcmd)

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    PRINT 'Re-do the full backup restore'

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    RESTORE DATABASE [DemoRestoreTable] FROM DISK =

    N'Q:\Backups SQL\DemoRecover.bak' WITH FILE = 1 , MOVE N'DemoRecover' TO

    N'C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\DATA\DemoRestoreTable.mdf'

    , MOVE N'DemoRecover_log' TO

    N'C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.1\MSSQL\DATA\DemoRestoreTable_1.LDF'

    , NORECOVERY , NOUNLOAD , REPLACE , STATS = 100

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    --PRINT 'I have to use dynamic SQL here for the code to run in 1 go, not necessary otherwise'

    DECLARE @restorePIT VARCHAR(1000)

    SET @restorePIT = 'RESTORE LOG [DemoRestoreTable] FROM DISK = N''Q:\Backups SQL\DemoRecover_log.bak'' WITH FILE = 1, STOPAT = N'''

    + CONVERT(VARCHAR(100) , @dtBeforeDelete , 126)

    + ''', STANDBY = N''Q:\Backups SQL\ROLLBACK_UNDO_DemoRestoreTable.BAK'', NOUNLOAD, STATS = 100'

    EXEC (@restorePIT)

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    EXEC (@selectcmd)

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    PRINT 'Now ALL the data is back'

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    PRINT 'Just use insert into to insert the missing data in the prod table'

    PRINT '' PRINT ''

    PRINT 'Cleanup, dropping both dbs and backups' ;

    USE master

    GO

    DROP DATABASE DemoRecover

    DROP DATABASE DemoRestoreTable ;

    EXEC xp_cmdshell 'DEL "Q:\Backups SQL\DemoRecover.bak"' , no_output

    EXEC xp_cmdshell 'DEL "Q:\Backups SQL\DemoRecover_log.bak"' , no_output

    Outputs >>

    Create data before FULL

    Processed 176 pages for database 'DemoRecover', file 'DemoRecover' on file 1.

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 5 pages for database 'DemoRecover', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    BACKUP DATABASE successfully processed 181 pages in 0.060 seconds (24.652 MB/sec).

    Create data after full

    RowsPerDay dt

    ----------- -----------------------

    1000 2011-07-26 00:00:00.000

    995 2011-07-27 00:00:00.000

    992 2011-07-28 00:00:00.000

    1013 2011-07-29 00:00:00.000

    @dtBeforeDelete : 2011-07-29T11:36:00.907

    Simulate 2 days dataloss

    (1987 row(s) affected)

    RowsPerDay dt

    ----------- -----------------------

    1000 2011-07-26 00:00:00.000

    1013 2011-07-29 00:00:00.000

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 99 pages for database 'DemoRecover', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    BACKUP LOG successfully processed 99 pages in 0.037 seconds (21.836 MB/sec).

    Restore the DB under a new name. The standby option let's me query the DB without losing the ability to recover more logs later on

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 176 pages for database 'DemoRestoreTable', file 'DemoRecover' on file 1.

    Processed 5 pages for database 'DemoRestoreTable', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    RESTORE DATABASE successfully processed 181 pages in 0.035 seconds (42.261 MB/sec).

    Confirm we're back to the same point we were before the 2nd insert

    RowsPerDay dt

    ----------- -----------------------

    1000 2011-07-26 00:00:00.000

    The standby mode allows me to now restore the log file(s)

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 0 pages for database 'DemoRestoreTable', file 'DemoRecover' on file 1.

    Processed 99 pages for database 'DemoRestoreTable', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    RESTORE LOG successfully processed 99 pages in 0.041 seconds (19.705 MB/sec).

    Cool so now we're back to where we were at the end of the inserts, how do we stop earlier?

    RowsPerDay dt

    ----------- -----------------------

    1000 2011-07-26 00:00:00.000

    1013 2011-07-29 00:00:00.000

    Re-do the full backup restore

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 176 pages for database 'DemoRestoreTable', file 'DemoRecover' on file 1.

    Processed 5 pages for database 'DemoRestoreTable', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    RESTORE DATABASE successfully processed 181 pages in 0.040 seconds (36.979 MB/sec).

    100 percent processed.

    Processed 0 pages for database 'DemoRestoreTable', file 'DemoRecover' on file 1.

    Processed 99 pages for database 'DemoRestoreTable', file 'DemoRecover_log' on file 1.

    RESTORE LOG successfully processed 99 pages in 0.035 seconds (23.083 MB/sec).

    RowsPerDay dt

    ----------- -----------------------

    1000 2011-07-26 00:00:00.000

    995 2011-07-27 00:00:00.000

    992 2011-07-28 00:00:00.000

    1013 2011-07-29 00:00:00.000

    Now ALL the data is back

    Just use insert into to insert the missing data in the prod table

    Cleanup, dropping both dbs and backups

  • Jeff Moden (7/29/2011)


    Gosh... has anyone ever heard of a good reason to have two identically named SQL Server instances in the same Domain? My gut says there isn't one and except (possibly) for the very brief period of bringing a new system online, it should never be done. Could someone that knows for sure (I just don't know and would actually like to know the answer for the future) respond to the following thread with either a "yay" or "nay" reason? The link takes you to my very sincere but totally unqualified response...

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1150874.aspx

    Thanks folks.

    I think you guys have covered it out there, but I can't imagine instance names being a problem if server names are different. If two servers in the domain have the same name, you are probably f***ked regardless of instance names, unless you have some very magical DNS configuration (and having that would probably be a deplorable mistake).

    Tom

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/29/2011)


    Interesting rant here: http://www.insanit.net/technology/smartphone-rants-3-what-do-i-want-a-real-windows-smartphone-when-do-i-want-it-now/

    Anyone else see the need/value here? I'm struggling to see if this is something that has value.

    Give me a phone with 8GB RAM, 600GB hard drive (or, preferably, SSD), WIndows 7, 4 core 2.8GHz 64 bit CPU, that will fit in my shirt pocket,so that I don't have to lug a great big heavy laptop about with me; and then I wil be very happy.

    If mobile phone vendors (particularly Apple) had not pretended that mobile phones have useful computing capability, or are decent general purpose computers, maybe I wouldn't have come to desire decent shirt pocket computing. But the y didn't stop, the continue to lie to us, and I have acquired that desire.

    Tom

    Tom

  • Tom.Thomson (7/29/2011)


    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/29/2011)


    Interesting rant here: http://www.insanit.net/technology/smartphone-rants-3-what-do-i-want-a-real-windows-smartphone-when-do-i-want-it-now/

    Anyone else see the need/value here? I'm struggling to see if this is something that has value.

    Give me a phone with 8GB RAM, 600GB hard drive (or, preferably, SSD), WIndows 7, 4 core 2.8GHz 64 bit CPU, that will fit in my shirt pocket,so that I don't have to lug a great big heavy laptop about with me; and then I wil be very happy.

    If mobile phone vendors (particularly Apple) had not pretended that mobile phones have useful computing capability, or are decent general purpose computers, maybe I wouldn't have come to desire decent shirt pocket computing. But the y didn't stop, the continue to lie to us, and I have acquired that desire.

    Tom

    There used to be a pocket computer like that, but without phone capabilities. I don't know why phones aren't more like full-fledged computers at this point.

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  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/29/2011)


    Interesting rant here: http://www.insanit.net/technology/smartphone-rants-3-what-do-i-want-a-real-windows-smartphone-when-do-i-want-it-now/

    Anyone else see the need/value here? I'm struggling to see if this is something that has value.

    Not really. Problem is screen size & input mechanisms. I really, really, don't want to sit around editing books on a keyboard that my thumbs can cover. I'm absolutely not going to do PowerShell development or TSQL development on a 3" screen. Ain't happening. So it's not a question of processing power or operating system. It's what you can do with the medium. Fact of the matter is, I'm more impressed with the combined ops aspect of the phone that I've been getting with the Droid. Interested in a bottle of wine, open up SpringPad, scan the bar code, done. Data entered and you can access that from your desktop later to order from a supplier.

    I think the guy is off.

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  • Grant Fritchey (7/29/2011)


    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/29/2011)


    Interesting rant here: http://www.insanit.net/technology/smartphone-rants-3-what-do-i-want-a-real-windows-smartphone-when-do-i-want-it-now/

    Anyone else see the need/value here? I'm struggling to see if this is something that has value.

    Not really. Problem is screen size & input mechanisms. I really, really, don't want to sit around editing books on a keyboard that my thumbs can cover. I'm absolutely not going to do PowerShell development or TSQL development on a 3" screen. Ain't happening. So it's not a question of processing power or operating system. It's what you can do with the medium. Fact of the matter is, I'm more impressed with the combined ops aspect of the phone that I've been getting with the Droid. Interested in a bottle of wine, open up SpringPad, scan the bar code, done. Data entered and you can access that from your desktop later to order from a supplier.

    I think the guy is off.

    Funny, I would have been in his camp until a few weeks ago when I got my first smartphone myself. Totally with you guys, as much fun as it is to be able to view the real intertubes on the phone, the well-designed mobile sites are MUCH easier, because they're sized for the input. That guy said he wants Photoshop/GIMP - what the heck would you do with that on a phone?

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