Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • Ninja's_RGR'us (7/28/2011)


    Now this is funny if this is what I think it is!

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1149828-391-1.aspx

    The 'backup the tail of the log' option has no place in maint plans. Shouldn't be there, absolutely no reason to ever select it and a nasty trap for wannabe DBAs who check options without reading up on what they do.

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • GilaMonster (7/28/2011)


    The 'backup the tail of the log' option has no place in maint plans. Shouldn't be there, absolutely no reason to ever select it and a nasty trap for wannabe DBAs who check options without reading up on what they do.

    IIRC it has been removed in Denali CTP 3.

  • SQLkiwi (7/28/2011)


    GilaMonster (7/28/2011)


    The 'backup the tail of the log' option has no place in maint plans. Shouldn't be there, absolutely no reason to ever select it and a nasty trap for wannabe DBAs who check options without reading up on what they do.

    IIRC it has been removed in Denali CTP 3.

    I remember that discussion. Bout time too, should never have been there in the first place. The log backup dialogue box, yes, the log backup maint plan task, no way.

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • GilaMonster (7/28/2011)


    Ninja's_RGR'us (7/28/2011)


    Now this is funny if this is what I think it is!

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1149828-391-1.aspx

    The 'backup the tail of the log' option has no place in maint plans. Shouldn't be there, absolutely no reason to ever select it and a nasty trap for wannabe DBAs who check options without reading up on what they do.

    I've never selected it because I never understood it. I never tried to find out what it does because backups seemed to do everything I needed without it. There's so much else to learn, it kept getting pushed off. Glad to know it isn't something I should have prioritized.

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  • Jeff Moden (7/27/2011)


    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/27/2011)


    I don't control the announcement. I assume it will be a business day or two afterward.

    From the website... kind of a buried link...

    Important dates

    1.Deadline for nominations: Thursday, June 30th 2011 at 17:00 hours (GMT).

    2.Finalists announced to SQL Server Central community for voting: Monday, July 18th 2011.

    3.Deadline for votes for winner: Friday, August 12th 2011 at 14:00 hours (GMT).

    4.Winner announced: week commencing Monday, September 12th 2011.

    5.Awards ceremony: at the PASS Community Summit, November 2011, Seattle, USA.

    Obviously, that last one is incorrect.

    Thanks.

    The award will be at PASS, just not sure where/how. PASS doesn't want the SSC party used for this, so that's one of the sticking points. Searching for other venues/options now.

  • Stefan Krzywicki (7/28/2011)I've never selected it because I never understood it. I never tried to find out what it does because backups seemed to do everything I needed without it. There's so much else to learn, it kept getting pushed off. Glad to know it isn't something I should have prioritized.

    Essentially BACKUP LOG ... WITH NORECOVERY

    Backs the log up and switches the database into the restoring state. It's used for the last log backup of a DB in full/bulk-logged recovery before starting a restore (over the existing database) to ensure that no transactions are lost.

    It's one of the forms of the tail-log backup (the other being BACKUP LOG ... WITH NO_TRUNCATE for a damaged database).

    Gail Shaw
    Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

    We walk in the dark places no others will enter
    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • GilaMonster (7/28/2011)


    Stefan Krzywicki (7/28/2011)I've never selected it because I never understood it. I never tried to find out what it does because backups seemed to do everything I needed without it. There's so much else to learn, it kept getting pushed off. Glad to know it isn't something I should have prioritized.

    Essentially BACKUP LOG ... WITH NORECOVERY

    Backs the log up and switches the database into the restoring state. It's used for the last log backup of a DB in full/bulk-logged recovery before starting a restore (over the existing database) to ensure that no transactions are lost.

    It's one of the forms of the tail-log backup (the other being BACKUP LOG ... WITH NO_TRUNCATE for a damaged database).

    Ah, so it is something primarily used for immediate database recovery. I can see where that would be useful and also why you'd never want it as a regular part of a maintenance plan. Thanks!

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  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/28/2011)


    Jeff Moden (7/27/2011)


    Steve Jones - SSC Editor (7/27/2011)


    I don't control the announcement. I assume it will be a business day or two afterward.

    From the website... kind of a buried link...

    Important dates

    1.Deadline for nominations: Thursday, June 30th 2011 at 17:00 hours (GMT).

    2.Finalists announced to SQL Server Central community for voting: Monday, July 18th 2011.

    3.Deadline for votes for winner: Friday, August 12th 2011 at 14:00 hours (GMT).

    4.Winner announced: week commencing Monday, September 12th 2011.

    5.Awards ceremony: at the PASS Community Summit, November 2011, Seattle, USA.

    Obviously, that last one is incorrect.

    Thanks.

    The award will be at PASS, just not sure where/how. PASS doesn't want the SSC party used for this, so that's one of the sticking points. Searching for other venues/options now.

    Apologies. I knew it would be awarded at PASS... just not in November of this year. 😀

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Well Jeff, I voted for you at the Exceptional DBA awards.

    Not only because you are the only one I know from that list, but also because of your amazing work here at SSC.

    Good luck!

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  • Ugh. Another copyright violation.

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1150675-391-1.aspx?Update=1

    Original article:

    http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/sql-server-index-t-sql-statements.html

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  • Gosh... has anyone ever heard of a good reason to have two identically named SQL Server instances in the same Domain? My gut says there isn't one and except (possibly) for the very brief period of bringing a new system online, it should never be done. Could someone that knows for sure (I just don't know and would actually like to know the answer for the future) respond to the following thread with either a "yay" or "nay" reason? The link takes you to my very sincere but totally unqualified response...

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1150874.aspx

    Thanks folks.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Koen Verbeeck (7/28/2011)


    Well Jeff, I voted for you at the Exceptional DBA awards.

    Not only because you are the only one I know from that list, but also because of your amazing work here at SSC.

    Good luck!

    Very kind words, Koen. Thank you for that and the vote. I really appreciate it.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Jeff Moden (7/29/2011)


    Gosh... has anyone ever heard of a good reason to have two identically named SQL Server instances in the same Domain? My gut says there isn't one and except (possibly) for the very brief period of bringing a new system online, it should never be done. Could someone that knows for sure (I just don't know and would actually like to know the answer for the future) respond to the following thread with either a "yay" or "nay" reason? The link takes you to my very sincere but totally unqualified response...

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1150874.aspx

    Thanks folks.

    Done.

  • Thanks, I was going to spend the afternoon tearing it apart. Lots of bad info in there.

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    SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability

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    We stand on the bridge and no one may pass
  • SAN experts (or experts with SAN Monitoring experience) needed at this thread with monitoring tool recommendations, please:

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1149982-391-1.aspx?Update=1

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