July 4, 2011 at 6:44 am
GilaMonster (7/3/2011)
Volunteer for what?What Paul mentions is MVP-specific stuff that come straight to us (eg spending time in the 'ask the experts', hosting a 'birds of a feather' lunch table, etc)
Grant should know about general summit volunteers, or you can look here: http://www.sqlpass.org/Community/Volunteers.aspx
If you have been volunteering for PASS during the year, you might get selected to go to the Summit. It just depends on what you've been doing. Other than that you have to be a Chapter leader or their designee or an MVP who agrees to volunteer as Gail outlines or a speaker. There are volunteer opportunities at the Summit for those who are going, but no way to work your way in while there that I know of.
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July 4, 2011 at 6:52 am
GilaMonster (7/1/2011)
Thanks everyone. Wasn't actually planning on announcing it here.
Gail, that is so very well deserved. I didn't realize that a person could earn the MVP more than once... I thought it was a permanent designation once you got it the first time. Now that I realize it can be granted more than once, I'm surprised they don't give it to you every two hours or so.
Congratulations.
Steve
July 4, 2011 at 6:53 am
threshold for parallelism expert needed here.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1135362-391-1.aspx
July 4, 2011 at 7:07 am
Jeff Moden (7/2/2011)
GilaMonster (7/1/2011)
Thanks everyone. Wasn't actually planning on announcing it here.Congratulations, Gail. This means that the top two non-employee posters for SSC have been selected again. 🙂
I don't feel qualified to be posting on the thread, but I'll break my rule for today.
You too Jeff?
Like Gail, very much deserved... you help me and many others more than you know.
July 4, 2011 at 8:16 am
SwayneBell (7/4/2011)
I didn't realize that a person could earn the MVP more than once... I thought it was a permanent designation once you got it the first time.
No. It's an annual thing. Awarded at one of the quarters (Jan, April, July, Oct), valid for a year and then you're either reawarded or not.
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July 4, 2011 at 8:21 am
GilaMonster (7/4/2011)
SwayneBell (7/4/2011)
I didn't realize that a person could earn the MVP more than once... I thought it was a permanent designation once you got it the first time.No. It's an annual thing. Awarded at one of the quarters (Jan, April, July, Oct), valid for a year and then you're either reawarded or not.
I saw that when I read back through a few pages of posts - i.e. that it's an annual thing - but I stand by my statement that you should get an award at least several times a day 😀
July 4, 2011 at 8:58 am
From our beloved http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1134935-146-1.aspx
Perry Whittle (7/4/2011)
GilaMonster (7/4/2011)
The DBA exams do cover the DMVs, especially the session-related ones. Hence if you passed that exam you should know these DMVs.The same thought occurred to me instantly upon reading this thread
It's been told over and over... certs don't mean squat unless you have experience to back it up (excluding MCM). Sometimes it feels like he bought those certs, assuming he really has them.
July 4, 2011 at 9:06 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (7/4/2011)
From our beloved http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1134935-146-1.aspx
I've reported it (long time ago), not least due to the insults he was tossing at me earlier on. Steve can do his magic on it when he gets back.
certs don't mean squat unless you have experience to back it up (excluding MCM).
The thing with the MCM is that you don't stand a chance of getting it if you don't already have significant experience. There is no way someone can pass the lab exam without knowing what they're doing, and that's knowing from doing, not reading.
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July 4, 2011 at 9:10 am
GilaMonster (7/4/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (7/4/2011)
From our beloved http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1134935-146-1.aspxI've reported it (long time ago), not least due to the insults he was tossing at me earlier on
certs don't mean squat unless you have experience to back it up (excluding MCM).
The thing with the MCM is that you don't stand a chance of getting it if you don't already have significant experience. There is no way someone can pass the lab exam without knowing what they're doing, and that's knowing from doing, not reading.
That's why imho, MCM is the ONLY cert that really means something where hiring someone. Everything else is nice to have.
MCM would just shoots you straight through the interview to here's what I need you to do, how much do you want for it :w00t:?
July 4, 2011 at 9:15 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (7/4/2011)
That's why imho, MCM is the ONLY cert that really means something where hiring someone. Everything else is nice to have.
But there are so few who have it that it's not something you can ask for (Unless you're Paul Randal), nor expect in the vast majority of cases.
Gail Shaw
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July 4, 2011 at 9:17 am
GilaMonster (7/4/2011)
Ninja's_RGR'us (7/4/2011)
That's why imho, MCM is the ONLY cert that really means something where hiring someone. Everything else is nice to have.But there are so few who have it that it's not something you can ask for (Unless you're Paul Randal), nor expect in the vast majority of cases.
If I need to hire someone because I can't do something... he better be a MCM :hehe:.
I could settle for thinking about it or taking it :-D.
July 4, 2011 at 5:35 pm
SwayneBell (7/4/2011)
I didn't realize that a person could earn the MVP more than once... I thought it was a permanent designation once you got it the first time.
Yes, I had that impression too. I thought that once someone became an MVP they had their forehead branded, were micro-chipped, and fitted with a security anklet.
Steve.
July 4, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Fal (7/4/2011)
SwayneBell (7/4/2011)
I didn't realize that a person could earn the MVP more than once... I thought it was a permanent designation once you got it the first time.Yes, I had that impression too. I thought that once someone became an MVP they had their forehead branded, were micro-chipped, and fitted with a security anklet.
Steve.
You've confused Microsoft Employee and MVP again, Fal. 😀
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July 5, 2011 at 1:10 am
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One of the arguments I always like to use is: What would it cost to absorbe the same knowledge when following the regular courses, on that many topics, with that much directly usable info ?I can imagine someone countering that argument by offering to acquire the summit DVDs instead... <devil><advocate/></devil>
<devil><advocate/></devil> Indeed 😀
Same goes for the "buy a book" attitude.
With the dvd you'll off course get the material, but watching it "in house" will never be as intense as the conference immersion itself. "in house" also means you'll get interrupted frequently, so you'll need to pick up the session from that point on. Technically no problem, but maintaing focus and mindset wil become an issue.
Besides that, I must admit that the networking going on at such an event also has its advantages for your company as well. So even that part isn't only for me, myself and I.
Is it worth the 5000 usd of the budget my company provides. Every penny !
They keep a motivated, well performing, dedicated, 24/7 available sysadmin\dba that keeps an eye on evolution, spreads novelties in a sound way, educates the dev teams as well as the other sysadmins on simple request.
- Ever since March 2002 - after my first SQLPass conference - I first targeted for a backup system implementation on all our production databases, later on also for the others.
- After that came the structured install process, which also handed the occasion to take care of security in a first wave. At that time, most install were just performed by the dev teams themselves in a "click, click, click, next, OK" fashion. No two installs were alike !
- Then I attacked SA. SA is nolonger used by any application.
Windows groups have been configured to provide administrative auth for instances and a propper request system has been put in place.
- Later on xp_cmdshell has been restricted.
- Then our company merged and I've been able to get the system administrators to work together and open up for input in every direction. That could only be achieved because of the solid technical support I could provide, flexibility - from my part at first - , readiness to share and hand over responsibility and the will to use a common systems setup attitude.
- Nowadays every db on every instance has DRP that been checked with its dev teams as well as with its enduser liaisons.
- In the years passed, we have been able to handle corruption a couple of times, also thanks to SSC 😎
- Guess why we still don't get the budget to buy a decent performance monitoring infrastructure ?
My tean and I are still able to extinguish all fires that pop up in an acceptable way. Need it to be mentioned we handle +400 instances with a couple of dba.
Every SQLPass I attended contributed a vast protion to all we were - and still are - able to structure, take into control, support, optimize ...
Now calculate the advantage my company still has because of these measures !
Thank you SQLPAss, thank you SSC.
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July 5, 2011 at 3:05 am
ALZDBA (7/5/2011)
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One of the arguments I always like to use is: What would it cost to absorbe the same knowledge when following the regular courses, on that many topics, with that much directly usable info ?I can imagine someone countering that argument by offering to acquire the summit DVDs instead... <devil><advocate/></devil>
<devil><advocate/></devil> Indeed 😀
Same goes for the "buy a book" attitude.
With the dvd you'll off course get the material, but watching it "in house" will never be as intense as the conference immersion itself. "in house" also means you'll get interrupted frequently, so you'll need to pick up the session from that point on. Technically no problem, but maintaing focus and mindset wil become an issue.
Personally I like the DVDs for the conference material. There are so many sessions concurrently that it is impossible to see more than a fraction of what's on offer.
What the DVD can't help with is the chats over lunch, in the hall, after the session, etc. I'll skip a session to sit and talk with people because I know I can get it on the DVD later.
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