April 13, 2011 at 9:51 am
GilaMonster (4/13/2011)
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Leave the contract early without notice and prior to completing the stated work.What does his contract require? Solo or contracting house?
Solo contract and it required him to perform some work on my house. I find it very dishonest to pull a shenanigan such as he did - do half the work (25% of which was done incorrectly) and to leave the rest in an un-done leaving all of it in a state of unpassable via inspection.
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April 13, 2011 at 9:53 am
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
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How many of you would walk out on a job without completing it (as a contractor/consultant) - if you were getting paid?Never (short of illegal practices by the company)
Even the client from hell, I would finish up, document, hand over then leave. To do otherwise is foolish. A consultant's reputation is so important.
Exactly what I was thinking. I am debating how to handle the situation now.
I'm assuming you've already done this, but if possible I'd try to have a face to face discussion with the person and see if I could find out why he/she was doing this. There might be extenuating circumstances (serious health issues in the family, or even something like an uncomfortable work environment that the consultant is finding that you don't know about, or the skill set you need is beyond what they can actually provide) that are driving this behavior, and this may be the only way said consultant can think of to extricate him/herself from the situation.
(If that's the case, the person needs to work on their consulting skills as well, but I can see there being the possibility that they just don't know how to handle something that's putting them in a difficult position.)
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April 13, 2011 at 9:54 am
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Leave the contract early without notice and prior to completing the stated work.
I wouldn't do it unless there were major extenuating circumstances.
What's the wording of the contract? Is there anything in the contract that would make this action a breach of contract?
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April 13, 2011 at 9:54 am
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Leave the contract early without notice and prior to completing the stated work.
I've only left early if all the work is done and they're keeping me around "just in case". And, of course, I've gotten another position, otherwise I'll stick around for their "just in case". Even then I'll give notice.
The only time I've ever left a position without giving notice, there was 1 week left on the contract, everything was finished and I had another position. Normally in this situation I'd give 2 weeks or a months' notice, but this company had a habit of terminating employees and contractors with no notice. Once while I was there they terminated someone while she was on vacation and she was called at home and told not to bother coming in again. Not even for cause.
They also terminated the contract of our DBA because he wasn't working 9-5. He was staying late to make sure jobs were running properly. And that was at 5PM being told that was his last day.
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April 13, 2011 at 9:56 am
Dwayne Dibley (4/13/2011)
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
How many of you would walk out on a job without completing it (as a contractor/consultant) - if you were getting paid?As with most SQL questions - it depends 😉
I'd agree. Something in my personal life might make me. It might be a conflict with another position and I'd have to find a way to bow out. Might hate the client and let them know I can't work with them anymore.
April 13, 2011 at 9:59 am
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CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Leave the contract early without notice and prior to completing the stated work.What does his contract require? Solo or contracting house?
Solo contract and it required him to perform some work on my house. I find it very dishonest to pull a shenanigan such as he did - do half the work (25% of which was done incorrectly) and to leave the rest in an un-done leaving all of it in a state of unpassable via inspection.
Okay, now it just becomes a question of if this is worth consulting a lawyer about. You might also have some recourse through the Better Business Bureau or a government agency, especially if this person is licensed.
I'd definitely talk to the person, and if I couldn't get a reasonable/acceptable resolution through that, I'd get the story out through as many online venues as I possibly could so their reputation takes a hit. Sounds petty, but it's more about protecting other people from the same thing. This can't be the first time.
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April 13, 2011 at 10:04 am
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
How many of you would walk out on a job without completing it (as a contractor/consultant) - if you were getting paid?
Hard one to answer. Unless there was a reason to, as in legal or moral, no, I'd finish up the job.
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April 13, 2011 at 10:12 am
Jack Corbett (4/13/2011)
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
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CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Leave the contract early without notice and prior to completing the stated work.What does his contract require? Solo or contracting house?
Solo contract and it required him to perform some work on my house. I find it very dishonest to pull a shenanigan such as he did - do half the work (25% of which was done incorrectly) and to leave the rest in an un-done leaving all of it in a state of unpassable via inspection.
Okay, now it just becomes a question of if this is worth consulting a lawyer about. You might also have some recourse through the Better Business Bureau or a government agency, especially if this person is licensed.
I'd definitely talk to the person, and if I couldn't get a reasonable/acceptable resolution through that, I'd get the story out through as many online venues as I possibly could so their reputation takes a hit. Sounds petty, but it's more about protecting other people from the same thing. This can't be the first time.
I am seriously debating the course of action of "dragging his name through mud" (online venues, BBB, etc).
Not sure if legal action would be worth it.
Have tried numerous times over the past three months to get this person to come finish the work, but he has been unresponsive until this AM when he said he was not going to finish the work.
Over the course of the last 3 months, I have heard other stories involving this guy and all are similar to mine.
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April 13, 2011 at 10:12 am
Jack Corbett (4/13/2011)
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CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Leave the contract early without notice and prior to completing the stated work.What does his contract require? Solo or contracting house?
Solo contract and it required him to perform some work on my house. I find it very dishonest to pull a shenanigan such as he did - do half the work (25% of which was done incorrectly) and to leave the rest in an un-done leaving all of it in a state of unpassable via inspection.
Okay, now it just becomes a question of if this is worth consulting a lawyer about. You might also have some recourse through the Better Business Bureau or a government agency, especially if this person is licensed.
I'd definitely talk to the person, and if I couldn't get a reasonable/acceptable resolution through that, I'd get the story out through as many online venues as I possibly could so their reputation takes a hit. Sounds petty, but it's more about protecting other people from the same thing. This can't be the first time.
I agree with Jack. I do know Jacksonville has several contractors who do that to people, though, and that the Better Business Bureau hereabouts is almost useless in this regard. Short of suing the guy for breach of contract, I'm not sure what your other options are.
April 13, 2011 at 10:15 am
Brandie Tarvin (4/13/2011)
Jack Corbett (4/13/2011)
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
GilaMonster (4/13/2011)
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Leave the contract early without notice and prior to completing the stated work.What does his contract require? Solo or contracting house?
Solo contract and it required him to perform some work on my house. I find it very dishonest to pull a shenanigan such as he did - do half the work (25% of which was done incorrectly) and to leave the rest in an un-done leaving all of it in a state of unpassable via inspection.
Okay, now it just becomes a question of if this is worth consulting a lawyer about. You might also have some recourse through the Better Business Bureau or a government agency, especially if this person is licensed.
I'd definitely talk to the person, and if I couldn't get a reasonable/acceptable resolution through that, I'd get the story out through as many online venues as I possibly could so their reputation takes a hit. Sounds petty, but it's more about protecting other people from the same thing. This can't be the first time.
I agree with Jack. I do know Jacksonville has several contractors who do that to people, though, and that the Better Business Bureau hereabouts is almost useless in this regard...
Isn't that really just pathetic on both counts? The BBB being useless and the dishonesty of the contractors.
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April 13, 2011 at 10:21 am
It is sad. Reasons why I do most of my own home updates, except for things like roof repairs that I can't do myself.
Check your local laws. He may be subject to fines and license revocation for leaving the job like this.
April 13, 2011 at 10:25 am
Brandie Tarvin (4/13/2011)
It is sad. Reasons why I do most of my own home updates, except for things like roof repairs that I can't do myself.Check your local laws. He may be subject to fines and license revocation for leaving the job like this.
I do most of the handy work myself. In cases where it doesn't make much sense or I don't have the time, then I may call in for help.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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April 13, 2011 at 10:38 am
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Jack Corbett (4/13/2011)
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
GilaMonster (4/13/2011)
CirquedeSQLeil (4/13/2011)
Leave the contract early without notice and prior to completing the stated work.What does his contract require? Solo or contracting house?
Solo contract and it required him to perform some work on my house. I find it very dishonest to pull a shenanigan such as he did - do half the work (25% of which was done incorrectly) and to leave the rest in an un-done leaving all of it in a state of unpassable via inspection.
Okay, now it just becomes a question of if this is worth consulting a lawyer about. You might also have some recourse through the Better Business Bureau or a government agency, especially if this person is licensed.
I'd definitely talk to the person, and if I couldn't get a reasonable/acceptable resolution through that, I'd get the story out through as many online venues as I possibly could so their reputation takes a hit. Sounds petty, but it's more about protecting other people from the same thing. This can't be the first time.
I am seriously debating the course of action of "dragging his name through mud" (online venues, BBB, etc).
Not sure if legal action would be worth it.
Have tried numerous times over the past three months to get this person to come finish the work, but he has been unresponsive until this AM when he said he was not going to finish the work.
Over the course of the last 3 months, I have heard other stories involving this guy and all are similar to mine.
You might want to consider legal action just to get your money back. Sometimes even the threat of going to court can get the person to cough up a refund.
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April 13, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Is it just me or does the constant resizing of the new ad 'Click here to monitor SSC' annoy the hell out of the rest of you, too?
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April 13, 2011 at 12:13 pm
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Is it just me or does the constant resizing of the new ad 'Click here to monitor SSC' annoy the hell out of the rest of you, too?
Ummm...just you.:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
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