March 24, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (3/24/2011)
Kiara (3/24/2011)
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"Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" is one of my favorites. Try out "Citizen of the Galaxy" too. These books hooked me on Heinlein. While I really like "Starship Troopers", it has a bit more of a politcal orientation than an adventure one. Probably easier to hook him onto the book with adventure ones. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is also became one of my favorites. Although, I do not have any kind words for his later stuff ("The Number of the Beast", "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls"), but "Friday" was decent. I like Heinlein's classic stuff.The movie "Starship Troopers" was almost as bad as "Dune - the movie based on a title by Frank Herbert" the one that starred Sting. That movie is at the top of my list of absolutely horrible translations from book to movie. (Yes, I really loathe that movie. :-P) "Starship Troopers" was bad, but not as bad as "Dune."
Agreed - my real love affair with Starship Troopers started in college, not prior - for exactly that reason.
The Sting Dune movie? You *had* to bring that up? *shudder*
I didn't actually walk out of the theater, but I came close...
Then again, the only movie I've actually ever walked out on was a horrid comic book adaption of Red Sonja many, many years ago. I occasionally debate trying to find a copy of it and holding a "worst movie EVAH" night... I'm just not sure I want to survive some of the selections my friends would bring...
If you make it a contest and want to win, show Incubus in the original Esperanto. Sitting through that movie was challenging and I like bad movies.
Nope, sorry, "Boxing Helena" wins all competitions.
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March 24, 2011 at 12:21 pm
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Kiara (3/24/2011)
Grant Fritchey (3/24/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (3/24/2011)
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Kit G (3/24/2011)
"Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" is one of my favorites. Try out "Citizen of the Galaxy" too. These books hooked me on Heinlein. While I really like "Starship Troopers", it has a bit more of a politcal orientation than an adventure one. Probably easier to hook him onto the book with adventure ones. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is also became one of my favorites. Although, I do not have any kind words for his later stuff ("The Number of the Beast", "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls"), but "Friday" was decent. I like Heinlein's classic stuff.The movie "Starship Troopers" was almost as bad as "Dune - the movie based on a title by Frank Herbert" the one that starred Sting. That movie is at the top of my list of absolutely horrible translations from book to movie. (Yes, I really loathe that movie. :-P) "Starship Troopers" was bad, but not as bad as "Dune."
Agreed - my real love affair with Starship Troopers started in college, not prior - for exactly that reason.
The Sting Dune movie? You *had* to bring that up? *shudder*
I didn't actually walk out of the theater, but I came close...
Then again, the only movie I've actually ever walked out on was a horrid comic book adaption of Red Sonja many, many years ago. I occasionally debate trying to find a copy of it and holding a "worst movie EVAH" night... I'm just not sure I want to survive some of the selections my friends would bring...
If you make it a contest and want to win, show Incubus in the original Esperanto. Sitting through that movie was challenging and I like bad movies.
Ooh, I'm jealous. I haven't seen that one. You'd be hard pressed to name a classic bad film that I haven't seen at least once.
I haven't seen it either...now I'm going to have to find it. I wonder if it will beat out Plan 9 from Outer Space?
Picture Plan 9 from Outer Space with less action, fewer special effects, and with subtitles. In addition, none of the actors knew the language they were speaking: Esperanto. All the dialogue was memorized and delivered phonetically. Plus, you get to watch William Shatner lounge about looking handsome and pleased with himself.
You just broke my brain.
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March 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm
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Stefan Krzywicki (3/24/2011)
Kiara (3/24/2011)
Kit G (3/24/2011)
"Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" is one of my favorites. Try out "Citizen of the Galaxy" too. These books hooked me on Heinlein. While I really like "Starship Troopers", it has a bit more of a politcal orientation than an adventure one. Probably easier to hook him onto the book with adventure ones. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is also became one of my favorites. Although, I do not have any kind words for his later stuff ("The Number of the Beast", "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls"), but "Friday" was decent. I like Heinlein's classic stuff.The movie "Starship Troopers" was almost as bad as "Dune - the movie based on a title by Frank Herbert" the one that starred Sting. That movie is at the top of my list of absolutely horrible translations from book to movie. (Yes, I really loathe that movie. :-P) "Starship Troopers" was bad, but not as bad as "Dune."
Agreed - my real love affair with Starship Troopers started in college, not prior - for exactly that reason.
The Sting Dune movie? You *had* to bring that up? *shudder*
I didn't actually walk out of the theater, but I came close...
Then again, the only movie I've actually ever walked out on was a horrid comic book adaption of Red Sonja many, many years ago. I occasionally debate trying to find a copy of it and holding a "worst movie EVAH" night... I'm just not sure I want to survive some of the selections my friends would bring...
If you make it a contest and want to win, show Incubus in the original Esperanto. Sitting through that movie was challenging and I like bad movies.
Nope, sorry, "Boxing Helena" wins all competitions.
I enjoyed Boxing Helena.
Haunted Hillbilly Mansion was overrated. As was Buckets of Blood. But 2000 Maniacs was a lot fun. Especially with how they intercut actual crowd scenes from some real southern town with the rampaging rednecks of the film.
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March 24, 2011 at 12:30 pm
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Besides Craig, are there any other Threadizens residing in Pheonix?
I'm also in Phoenix.
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March 24, 2011 at 12:36 pm
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The movie named Starship Troopers seems to have only shared its title with the actual book... *sigh*True (rumored) fact. Starship Troopers started out as a different movie which blew its budget and was about to be canned. The studio suddenly got the rights to ST and told the director "we'll let you off the hook if you make this instead." So he reused all his footage from the bug movie and used the new budget he got for ST, threw them together, and that's why the movie is so horrid.
Nah, check the interviews on http://thehollywoodinterview.blogspot.com/2010/09/paul-verhoeven-starship-troopers.html, and so on. Definitely wasn't done that way. Also, the DNA from the book is in every frame of the movie. He skipped the power-armor, but the rest is too closely related to not be a direct descendant. That doesn't make the movie good (though I loved Dina Meyer in it, but I just plain love her as an actress [heck, I loved her in Johny Mnemonic, and that movie SUCKED far worse than this one even]), but it does make it "based on the book".
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March 24, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Kiara (3/24/2011)
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Kiara (3/24/2011)
The movie named Starship Troopers seems to have only shared its title with the actual book... *sigh*True (rumored) fact. Starship Troopers started out as a different movie which blew its budget and was about to be canned. The studio suddenly got the rights to ST and told the director "we'll let you off the hook if you make this instead." So he reused all his footage from the bug movie and used the new budget he got for ST, threw them together, and that's why the movie is so horrid.
That makes a scary amount of sense. And is about the only way I can remotely figure out how they mutilated the story so badly.
The director grew up in Nazi-occupied Holland as part of his childhood. His take on the society Heinlein proposed was colored by that experience, and he has said as much. Take that into account, and the political color of the film makes all kinds of sense.
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March 24, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Kiara (3/24/2011)
Kit G (3/24/2011)
"Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" is one of my favorites. Try out "Citizen of the Galaxy" too. These books hooked me on Heinlein. While I really like "Starship Troopers", it has a bit more of a politcal orientation than an adventure one. Probably easier to hook him onto the book with adventure ones. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is also became one of my favorites. Although, I do not have any kind words for his later stuff ("The Number of the Beast", "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls"), but "Friday" was decent. I like Heinlein's classic stuff.The movie "Starship Troopers" was almost as bad as "Dune - the movie based on a title by Frank Herbert" the one that starred Sting. That movie is at the top of my list of absolutely horrible translations from book to movie. (Yes, I really loathe that movie. :-P) "Starship Troopers" was bad, but not as bad as "Dune."
Agreed - my real love affair with Starship Troopers started in college, not prior - for exactly that reason.
The Sting Dune movie? You *had* to bring that up? *shudder*
I didn't actually walk out of the theater, but I came close...
Then again, the only movie I've actually ever walked out on was a horrid comic book adaption of Red Sonja many, many years ago. I occasionally debate trying to find a copy of it and holding a "worst movie EVAH" night... I'm just not sure I want to survive some of the selections my friends would bring...
I did walk out of a showing of Dune. Left the rest of my family sitting in the livingroom, wondering where I'd gone off to... Yeah, I disliked it that much.
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March 24, 2011 at 12:44 pm
GSquared (3/24/2011)
Kiara (3/24/2011)
Kit G (3/24/2011)
"Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" is one of my favorites. Try out "Citizen of the Galaxy" too. These books hooked me on Heinlein. While I really like "Starship Troopers", it has a bit more of a politcal orientation than an adventure one. Probably easier to hook him onto the book with adventure ones. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is also became one of my favorites. Although, I do not have any kind words for his later stuff ("The Number of the Beast", "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls"), but "Friday" was decent. I like Heinlein's classic stuff.The movie "Starship Troopers" was almost as bad as "Dune - the movie based on a title by Frank Herbert" the one that starred Sting. That movie is at the top of my list of absolutely horrible translations from book to movie. (Yes, I really loathe that movie. :-P) "Starship Troopers" was bad, but not as bad as "Dune."
Agreed - my real love affair with Starship Troopers started in college, not prior - for exactly that reason.
The Sting Dune movie? You *had* to bring that up? *shudder*
I didn't actually walk out of the theater, but I came close...
Then again, the only movie I've actually ever walked out on was a horrid comic book adaption of Red Sonja many, many years ago. I occasionally debate trying to find a copy of it and holding a "worst movie EVAH" night... I'm just not sure I want to survive some of the selections my friends would bring...
I did walk out of a showing of Dune. Left the rest of my family sitting in the livingroom, wondering where I'd gone off to... Yeah, I disliked it that much.
A friend of mine walked out of Star Wars Episode One right after the pod race scene. His wife had walked out earlier, she said she was going to the bathroom. He found her sitting in the lobby, reading.
I should have walked out of the first Harry Potter movie, but I didn't 'cause I was with friends and didn't have a book. They probably would have prefered if I had.
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March 24, 2011 at 1:03 pm
GSquared (3/24/2011)
Nah, check the interviews on http://thehollywoodinterview.blogspot.com/2010/09/paul-verhoeven-starship-troopers.html, and so on. Definitely wasn't done that way. Also, the DNA from the book is in every frame of the movie. He skipped the power-armor, but the rest is too closely related to not be a direct descendant. That doesn't make the movie good (though I loved Dina Meyer in it, but I just plain love her as an actress [heck, I loved her in Johny Mnemonic, and that movie SUCKED far worse than this one even]), but it does make it "based on the book".
Hey now, Johnny Mnemonic was an awesome movie... if you played Shadowrun. It had as much technical accuracy as 'Hackers', but hey, campy crap is fun too. 🙂
It never did anything but pick on itself. I mean, c'mon, a dolphin doing hack jobs?! That's pure fun!
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March 24, 2011 at 1:06 pm
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Nah, check the interviews on http://thehollywoodinterview.blogspot.com/2010/09/paul-verhoeven-starship-troopers.html, and so on. Definitely wasn't done that way. Also, the DNA from the book is in every frame of the movie. He skipped the power-armor, but the rest is too closely related to not be a direct descendant. That doesn't make the movie good (though I loved Dina Meyer in it, but I just plain love her as an actress [heck, I loved her in Johny Mnemonic, and that movie SUCKED far worse than this one even]), but it does make it "based on the book".Hey now, Johnny Mnemonic was an awesome movie... if you played Shadowrun. It had as much technical accuracy as 'Hackers', but hey, campy crap is fun too. 🙂
It never did anything but pick on itself. I mean, c'mon, a dolphin doing hack jobs?! That's pure fun!
I played Shadowrun for years. Still disliked JM. Might have been more to do with Keanu "I will one day try to have a facial expression" Reeves than the dolphin, in my case.
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March 24, 2011 at 1:10 pm
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Nah, check the interviews on http://thehollywoodinterview.blogspot.com/2010/09/paul-verhoeven-starship-troopers.html, and so on. Definitely wasn't done that way. Also, the DNA from the book is in every frame of the movie. He skipped the power-armor, but the rest is too closely related to not be a direct descendant. That doesn't make the movie good (though I loved Dina Meyer in it, but I just plain love her as an actress [heck, I loved her in Johny Mnemonic, and that movie SUCKED far worse than this one even]), but it does make it "based on the book".Hey now, Johnny Mnemonic was an awesome movie... if you played Shadowrun. It had as much technical accuracy as 'Hackers', but hey, campy crap is fun too. 🙂
It never did anything but pick on itself. I mean, c'mon, a dolphin doing hack jobs?! That's pure fun!
I played Shadowrun for years. Still disliked JM. Might have been more to do with Keanu "I will one day try to have a facial expression" Reeves than the dolphin, in my case.
Hey, Keanu had facial expressions in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. I think the problem is that that's the only character he can play. In later movies they told him they were "serious" roles, so he tried to look serious and to him that means no facial expressions.
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March 24, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (3/24/2011)
GSquared (3/24/2011)
Kiara (3/24/2011)
Kit G (3/24/2011)
"Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" is one of my favorites. Try out "Citizen of the Galaxy" too. These books hooked me on Heinlein. While I really like "Starship Troopers", it has a bit more of a politcal orientation than an adventure one. Probably easier to hook him onto the book with adventure ones. "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is also became one of my favorites. Although, I do not have any kind words for his later stuff ("The Number of the Beast", "The Cat Who Walked Through Walls"), but "Friday" was decent. I like Heinlein's classic stuff.The movie "Starship Troopers" was almost as bad as "Dune - the movie based on a title by Frank Herbert" the one that starred Sting. That movie is at the top of my list of absolutely horrible translations from book to movie. (Yes, I really loathe that movie. :-P) "Starship Troopers" was bad, but not as bad as "Dune."
Agreed - my real love affair with Starship Troopers started in college, not prior - for exactly that reason.
The Sting Dune movie? You *had* to bring that up? *shudder*
I didn't actually walk out of the theater, but I came close...
Then again, the only movie I've actually ever walked out on was a horrid comic book adaption of Red Sonja many, many years ago. I occasionally debate trying to find a copy of it and holding a "worst movie EVAH" night... I'm just not sure I want to survive some of the selections my friends would bring...
I did walk out of a showing of Dune. Left the rest of my family sitting in the livingroom, wondering where I'd gone off to... Yeah, I disliked it that much.
A friend of mine walked out of Star Wars Episode One right after the pod race scene. His wife had walked out earlier, she said she was going to the bathroom. He found her sitting in the lobby, reading.
I should have walked out of the first Harry Potter movie, but I didn't 'cause I was with friends and didn't have a book. They probably would have prefered if I had.
After the pod race scene? So...he didn't miss anything then?
And what was so bad about Harry? I thought they did a pretty good job with those, can't wait to see the last. (healthy dose of Movie as Art != Book as Art required, but still)
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March 24, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (3/24/2011)
Hey, Keanu had facial expressions in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. I think the problem is that that's the only character he can play. In later movies they told him they were "serious" roles, so he tried to look serious and to him that means no facial expressions.
Ha! yeah, that's like the critique for "Devil's Advocate" - plausible, except for the fact that Keanu is a lawyer...
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March 24, 2011 at 1:50 pm
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Stefan Krzywicki (3/24/2011)
A friend of mine walked out of Star Wars Episode One right after the pod race scene. His wife had walked out earlier, she said she was going to the bathroom. He found her sitting in the lobby, reading.I should have walked out of the first Harry Potter movie, but I didn't 'cause I was with friends and didn't have a book. They probably would have prefered if I had.
After the pod race scene? So...he didn't miss anything then?
And what was so bad about Harry? I thought they did a pretty good job with those, can't wait to see the last. (healthy dose of Movie as Art != Book as Art required, but still)
I haven't seen the most recent 3 Star Wars movies, I'm not a big fan of the franchise, but from everything I've heard he got out at the right time.
I'm also not a fan of the Harry Potter books. The movie seemed like a study in ADD, nothing was really connected to anything else and the quidditch or whatever it is called really annoyed me.
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March 24, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (3/24/2011)
I should have walked out of the first Harry Potter movie, but I didn't 'cause I was with friends and didn't have a book. They probably would have prefered if I had.
I almost walked out of the 4th. Pretty, but the story made little sense unless you'd also read the book.
Couple friends watched it having never read the book. When, a few months later, I mentioned some of the happenings in book 4 they both went 'Oh! so that's what was going on!'
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