March 10, 2011 at 1:01 pm
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
We actually have annual contests to see who can guess the most acronyms, and we pass out a list to new hires so they're not completely clueless. Has over 200 on the list.
Please tell me that AL (Acronym List) is not on there. Please. Please.
Chad
March 10, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Chad Crawford (3/10/2011)
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
We actually have annual contests to see who can guess the most acronyms, and we pass out a list to new hires so they're not completely clueless. Has over 200 on the list.Please tell me that AL (Acronym List) is not on there. Please. Please.
Chad
Surely if it were there it would have to be SRAL (Self Referential Acronym List)?
AL is horribly ambiguous, of course - for example AL in the 7 layer model is Application Layer, it's a US state, its an ISO country code, and in fact there are (I think) comfortably over 200 things that AL is regularly used for.
SRAL is not nearly as bad - fewer meanings by a factor of at least 10 - but is still far from unambiguous.
Of course there are some real horrors, with getting on for 500 common uses. Acronyms are often a bad idea because they are so thoroughly ambiguous. π
Tom
March 10, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Tom.Thomson (3/10/2011)
Chad Crawford (3/10/2011)
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
We actually have annual contests to see who can guess the most acronyms, and we pass out a list to new hires so they're not completely clueless. Has over 200 on the list.Please tell me that AL (Acronym List) is not on there. Please. Please.
Chad
Surely if it were there it would have to be SRAL (Self Referential Acronym List)?
AL is horribly ambiguous, of course - for example AL in the 7 layer model is Application Layer, it's a US state, its an ISO country code, and in fact there are (I think) comfortably over 200 things that AL is regularly used for.
SRAL is not nearly as bad - fewer meanings by a factor of at least 10 - but is still far from unambiguous.
Of course there are some real horrors, with getting on for 500 common uses. Acronyms are often a bad idea because they are so thoroughly ambiguous. π
They are indeed. There's a table here that I keep wanting to abbreviate as FTP. Surely that would never cause confusion!
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March 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Tom.Thomson (3/10/2011)
Of course there are some real horrors, with getting on for 500 common uses. Acronyms are often a bad idea because they are so thoroughly ambiguous. π
I have no idea what you're talking about, I mean, I work for it... you known, that creepy clown spider from Steven King? That and IS IT departments causing problems, or something else related to IT?
Guess it's just snafu, and what you're used to, when you deal with it.
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March 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Tom.Thomson (3/10/2011)
Chad Crawford (3/10/2011)
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
We actually have annual contests to see who can guess the most acronyms, and we pass out a list to new hires so they're not completely clueless. Has over 200 on the list.Please tell me that AL (Acronym List) is not on there. Please. Please.
Chad
Surely if it were there it would have to be SRAL (Self Referential Acronym List)?
AL is horribly ambiguous, of course - for example AL in the 7 layer model is Application Layer, it's a US state, its an ISO country code, and in fact there are (I think) comfortably over 200 things that AL is regularly used for.
SRAL is not nearly as bad - fewer meanings by a factor of at least 10 - but is still far from unambiguous.
Of course there are some real horrors, with getting on for 500 common uses. Acronyms are often a bad idea because they are so thoroughly ambiguous. π
And thus was born "AA" (Acronym Ambiguity), which is recursively a violation of the whole concept it expresses! How cool is that!
We can "join AA" by using AAs (Ambiguous Acronyms), or state that "we are avoiding AA". The list of MAs (Misuse/Abuses) just goes on and on! (I'm assuming "AA" is a socially meaningful acronym outside the States. Does it carry the same "most common use" elsewhere? If not, that whole joke loses a lot of meaning.)
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March 10, 2011 at 3:52 pm
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
*note to self - don't go to any meals with Gus
Aw, he's not that bad!
Wayne
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March 10, 2011 at 3:55 pm
WayneS (3/10/2011)
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
*note to self - don't go to any meals with GusAw, he's not that bad!
...said Stumpy...
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March 10, 2011 at 3:57 pm
GSquared (3/10/2011)
Tom.Thomson (3/10/2011)
Chad Crawford (3/10/2011)
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
We actually have annual contests to see who can guess the most acronyms, and we pass out a list to new hires so they're not completely clueless. Has over 200 on the list.Please tell me that AL (Acronym List) is not on there. Please. Please.
Chad
Surely if it were there it would have to be SRAL (Self Referential Acronym List)?
AL is horribly ambiguous, of course - for example AL in the 7 layer model is Application Layer, it's a US state, its an ISO country code, and in fact there are (I think) comfortably over 200 things that AL is regularly used for.
SRAL is not nearly as bad - fewer meanings by a factor of at least 10 - but is still far from unambiguous.
Of course there are some real horrors, with getting on for 500 common uses. Acronyms are often a bad idea because they are so thoroughly ambiguous. π
And thus was born "AA" (Acronym Ambiguity), which is recursively a violation of the whole concept it expresses! How cool is that!
We can "join AA" by using AAs (Ambiguous Acronyms), or state that "we are avoiding AA". The list of MAs (Misuse/Abuses) just goes on and on! (I'm assuming "AA" is a socially meaningful acronym outside the States. Does it carry the same "most common use" elsewhere? If not, that whole joke loses a lot of meaning.)
See, now I have to add all of those just to see if anyone notices...
I'm still working on my master plan of successfully naming a project A.C.R.O.N.Y.M., haven't been able to figure that one out yet.
In all seriousness, it's disturbing when license plates begin to have hidden meaning to you.
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How to post performance problems[/url]
Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]
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March 10, 2011 at 4:05 pm
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
I'm still working on my master plan of successfully naming a project A.C.R.O.N.Y.M., haven't been able to figure that one out yet.
You mean the unit of
Assault Crimes of Regular Officers in New York, Manhattan?
π
Growing up in New York, Acronym was easy to make fun of. There's a lot worse out there... π
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March 10, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (3/10/2011)
GSquared (3/10/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (3/10/2011)
It's the Attack of the Acronyms!Two years ago, we implemented a new process that uses the acronym "RI". I've been working on that process ever since. I've gotten so ingrained in it, that when a developer asked me how the Truncate Table command would work with RI, I spent two minutes trying to figure out what heck he was talking about. Our process doesn't care about T-SQL commands.
<headdesk>.
GAH. I hate that my first thought was process related, not referential integrity related. I am losing my techiness! Someone help me!
To truncate a table in Rhode Island, you first get a chainsaw, then you lock the chairs so no one new can sit down at the table, unless they use the NoLock feature as they sit (and then they deserve what they get, right?). Then you wait for everyone who has a properly locked seat at the table to finish eating and talking and get up. Lock each chair as it is vacated. When all you have left is either empty chairs, or chairs occupied by the NoLock people, you fire up the chainsaw and get to work.
Right?
Close, but in Rhode Island a "Table" is a large hamburger. And you "truncate" it by eating it.
OK, so I'm guessing here, but remember this is the state that calls a milkshake a "cabinet".
Heh... that's just "Awful, Awful". π
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Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
March 10, 2011 at 7:27 pm
ALZDBA (3/10/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (3/10/2011)
GilaMonster (3/10/2011)
I'm talking about the case where someone starts a new thread solely to say "Hey everyone, I wrote an awesome blog post on XYZ, go read it!!!!!"I should start a brand new blog to tell everyone I'm writing awesome blog posts on my current blog... @=)
(Brandie hides behind Jeff.) Protect me from the lizard! @=)
This lizard doesn't punch, but it bites and is poisonous :hehe:
Fortunately Jeff has been immunized by time.:hehe:
Actually, the immunization occurred as a result of multiple bites. You know the old saying, "If it doesn't kill ya , it makes you stronger." That and a good thick layer of pork chop grease. π
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Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
March 10, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (3/9/2011)
jcrawf02 (3/9/2011)
Steve, are you aware that you're sitting on a gold mine? Your barn could power Denver!Not sure it's a "gold" mine, but I need to get me one of those things. We have no shortage of fuel around here.
BWAA-HAA!!! HOOO-IIEEE!!! Until I remembered that you have horses, I though you were talking about this thread! π
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
March 10, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Chris Morris-439714 (3/7/2011)
SQLkiwi (3/4/2011)
Exciting day - just had my first Simple Talk article published:http://www.simple-talk.com/sql/learn-sql-server/understanding-and-using-parallelism-in-sql-server/
Good lord Paul, they get better and better. You have an enviable skill, like Jeff M, at making the arcane accessible and understandable for us mere mortals.
I missed this before... thanks for placing me in the company of such a brilliant writer. :blush:
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Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
March 11, 2011 at 1:35 am
GSquared (3/10/2011)
Tom.Thomson (3/10/2011)
Chad Crawford (3/10/2011)
jcrawf02 (3/10/2011)
We actually have annual contests to see who can guess the most acronyms, and we pass out a list to new hires so they're not completely clueless. Has over 200 on the list.Please tell me that AL (Acronym List) is not on there. Please. Please.
Chad
Surely if it were there it would have to be SRAL (Self Referential Acronym List)?
AL is horribly ambiguous, of course - for example AL in the 7 layer model is Application Layer, it's a US state, its an ISO country code, and in fact there are (I think) comfortably over 200 things that AL is regularly used for.
SRAL is not nearly as bad - fewer meanings by a factor of at least 10 - but is still far from unambiguous.
Of course there are some real horrors, with getting on for 500 common uses. Acronyms are often a bad idea because they are so thoroughly ambiguous. π
And thus was born "AA" (Acronym Ambiguity), which is recursively a violation of the whole concept it expresses! How cool is that!
We can "join AA" by using AAs (Ambiguous Acronyms), or state that "we are avoiding AA". The list of MAs (Misuse/Abuses) just goes on and on! (I'm assuming "AA" is a socially meaningful acronym outside the States. Does it carry the same "most common use" elsewhere? If not, that whole joke loses a lot of meaning.)
LOL. My experience. - At interview, the technical interviewer expressed dislike of acronym use. The non-technical interviewer replied, "funnily enough, I didn't know what DBA stood for until you applied for the post to be created." I think you can guess my job title. π
March 11, 2011 at 4:27 am
hor_netuk (3/11/2011)
My experience. - At interview, the technical interviewer expressed dislike of acronym use. The non-technical interviewer replied, "funnily enough, I didn't know what DBA stood for until you applied for the post to be created." I think you can guess my job title. π
DBA - Doing Business As
When people find out I'm a DBA, I get the "doing business as what, exactly?" question way too often.
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