February 18, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Okay since we got this cricket thing on twitter, Venzann, posted this link, http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=C9STtcwo0xE, which helped me understand a little bit more about cricket.
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February 18, 2011 at 2:40 pm
GSquared (2/18/2011)
If we're going to be specific about parentage, then it's mainly from Old French and the Saxon variant of Old High German. Modern English also has significant Italian and Spanish elements (Latin again, twice), but it has borrowed from just about every language on Earth at one time or another.
As well as Saxon, Old English had significant contributions at a very early stage from the Angle, Jute, and Frisian forms of West Germanic (incidentally none of those, not even Saxon, is a High German dialect - they come from much too far North to count as High German, or even Upper German, they are Low German; Low, Upper, and High German descended roughly in parallel from Early West Germanic, but the earliest West Germanic language for which we have direct evidence is Old Frankish, a Low German language which is attested about a century before any High German).
It's generally thought that Old High German came into being some time between 500AD and 750AD, so the idea that any Low German language - including Old English - might be a variant of it is a bit off beam (OHG is the ancestor of modern AltDeutsch, the official language of Germany and also of Austria, and probably of no other language).
Also the earliest Germanic settlements in England were, according to the AngloSaxon chronicle, Angles (invited in 449 by Vortigern to help make war on the Picti) rather than Saxons.
Both the Celtic Church and the Roman Church made great use of Latin and some use of Greek, and by the time of the Danish invasions in the 8th and 9th centuries a large chunk of Latin vocabulary and a small chunk of Latin syntax, as well as a small chunk of Greek vocabulary, had found its way into the developing Anglo-Saxon language; the Latin in English didn't by any means all arrive after the Norman Conquest.
In the 8th and 9th centuries there was a good solid injection of North Germanic vocabulary from the new invaders - many of the most common words in English come from Old Norse, not from any of the West Germanic languages - and this North Germanic influence continued (because there waa large "Danish" area) after the end of the Norse invasion wars until well past the Norman conquest. Later on there was a further influence of (Low) West Germanic with the arrival of substantial numbers of "Flemish" merchants who settled in SE Scotland and NE England (12th century and onward, I think).
There was of course the Norman French influence for a couple of hundred years, plus the coining of new words from Latin and Greek roots as well as the importation you mentioned of vocabulary from other Romance (and Germanic, incidentally) languages and of bits and pieces from all sorts of other languages too; and of course English acquired rather more vocabulary and grammar from Goidelic and Brythonic languages than Anglophone etymologists and linguists were ever willing to admit.
Tom
February 18, 2011 at 2:50 pm
GilaMonster (2/18/2011)
If you want to stop cricket play, you call lunch, drinks break or bad light.
Or you call tea, of course. Very important.
Tom
February 18, 2011 at 4:54 pm
jcrawf02 (2/18/2011)
Will somebody just punt the damn ball and call the half? jeez.... :-D:-P
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February 18, 2011 at 4:57 pm
GilaMonster (2/18/2011)
jcrawf02 (2/18/2011)
Will somebody just punt the damn ball and call the half? jeez.... :-D:-PHalf of what?
If you want to stop cricket play, you call lunch, drinks break or bad light.
which are all known as 'upping stumps'
I was going to stop, but confusing foreigners is too much fun. 🙂
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February 18, 2011 at 4:58 pm
How about sending the last few hundred (?) posts to DiscoveryChannel? They might be able to make a few stories out of it... 😀
Very entertaining for an ESL who has no ideat about cricket! (except for the Lenny stuff...)
February 18, 2011 at 5:02 pm
george sibbald (2/18/2011)
...I was going to stop, but confusing foreigners is too much fun. 🙂
Statement archived for future reference. 😀
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February 19, 2011 at 3:24 am
I think most of us must be aliens :alien::alien::alien::alien: 😀
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February 19, 2011 at 8:46 am
george sibbald (2/18/2011)
GilaMonster (2/18/2011)
jcrawf02 (2/18/2011)
Will somebody just punt the damn ball and call the half? jeez.... :-D:-PHalf of what?
If you want to stop cricket play, you call lunch, drinks break or bad light.
which are all known as 'upping stumps'
I was going to stop, but confusing foreigners is too much fun. 🙂
But here you're clarifying things for foreigners!
... unless you've been lying to me! 😛
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February 19, 2011 at 10:04 am
Roy Ernest (2/18/2011)
I am in the Caribbeans.. The Dutch carribean.
Do they speak Dutch over there?
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February 19, 2011 at 10:33 am
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Roy Ernest (2/18/2011)
I am in the Caribbeans.. The Dutch carribean.Do they speak Dutch over there?
Didn't you hear the latest "Lotus speculoospasta" advertisement on the radio.
That's the kind of joyful dutch they speak.
😉
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February 19, 2011 at 10:49 am
Roy Ernest (2/18/2011)
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Roy Ernest (2/18/2011)
...
I am in the Caribbeans.. The Dutch carribean. ...
Next time, at SQLPass, remind me of this trip , so we can have a little chat in Dutch 😀
( in stead of me wondering "I know the name, but cannot recall the thread we had a conversation" )
Still it was nice to meet you at SQLPass2010 in Seattle.:smooooth:
It was a pleasure meeting you as well. Unfortunately you will not have a chance to speak to me in Dutch.. 🙂 I dont speak Dutch. I am from India and have made my home in the this island. Married to a local girl and all.. 🙂 I speak Papiamentu (Local language) 🙂
Papiamentu, I knew the name, but haven't heart it ( as far as I recall).
Must be great to live on the sunshine islands.
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February 19, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (2/19/2011)
george sibbald (2/18/2011)
GilaMonster (2/18/2011)
jcrawf02 (2/18/2011)
Will somebody just punt the damn ball and call the half? jeez.... :-D:-PHalf of what?
If you want to stop cricket play, you call lunch, drinks break or bad light.
which are all known as 'upping stumps'
I was going to stop, but confusing foreigners is too much fun. 🙂
But here you're clarifying things for foreigners!
... unless you've been lying to me! 😛
oh no, its all true, Its great you understood it, couldn't explain it to me could you? 😀
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February 20, 2011 at 1:32 am
For anyone curious, my opinions on the SQLSaturday #47 event in Phoenix.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1066836-1199-1.aspx
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February 20, 2011 at 5:26 am
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For anyone curious, my opinions on the SQLSaturday #47 event in Phoenix.http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1066836-1199-1.aspx
All in all, a very satisfying day.
Sounds like a good event. Sorry I couldn't make that one.
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