Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • I'm not calling out any particular person, and I've certainly been guilty of posting a few less than professional things in my time. I'm just asking you to think about whether you are contributing to making any particular thread/situation better or adding fuel to the fire.

    And it's not Lutz' fault

    This time

    :hehe:

  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (2/3/2011)


    I'm not calling out any particular person, and I've certainly been guilty of posting a few less than professional things in my time. I'm just asking you to think about whether you are contributing to making any particular thread/situation better or adding fuel to the fire.

    And it's not Lutz' fault

    This time

    :hehe:

    I suspect I've been pouring light oil onto burning stubble instead of onto troubled waters in at least one thread (the PF-originated global warming thread). I promise I'll try to avoid doing that in future (provided I remember not to and am sufficiently in control of self to keep this promise :Whistling: :ermm: ).

    Tom

  • Tom, I'm less than concerned with debates in the editorial forum, or this Anything Not about SQL forum. Those are there for opinionated debate. It's the technical threads I worry about.

    BTW, I was hoping that you might argue that the warming cycle might be larger than we expect. It's possible that global warming is part of a 25,000 year trend and we could be panicking for nothing.

  • Lynn Pettis (2/2/2011)


    Amazing it is how arrogant some may be.

    And then to post here as well?

    EDIT: For those interested, the links above are broken.

  • If Gus could repost his explanation of this LEET/4chan speak here it would be informative. It was the only info on 'that thread' that I'd like to re-read.

  • Tom Brown (2/4/2011)


    If Gus could repost his explanation of this LEET/4chan speak here it would be informative. It was the only info on 'that thread' that I'd like to re-read.

    Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

    There was also some debate on the differences between internet slang and phone text messaging. (Or Twitter)

    Leet is more about replacing letters by numbers (1337 instead of leet) to bypass "government" filters, while textmessaging is more about abbreviating words to stay below the number of character limit (lol u mad?)

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  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (2/3/2011)


    Tom,

    BTW, I was hoping that you might argue that the warming cycle might be larger than we expect. It's possible that global warming is part of a 25,000 year trend and we could be panicking for nothing.

    Man as a species loves to overestimate dangers. I guess its a survival trait, as a species underestimating them would probably die out.

  • I've added a Random Recipies thread to this subforum. I hope you all will contribute. I think it'd be fun.

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1058623-61-1.aspx

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  • Brandie Tarvin (2/4/2011)


    I've added a Random Recipies thread to this subforum. I hope you all will contribute. I think it'd be fun.

    http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1058623-61-1.aspx

    Great idea, but I'm too lazy to type in whole recipies 😀

    If I find the time (and energy), I'll post one about making pancakes (European style).

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  • While you are at it Koen, why don't you add Vlaamse Stoverij, Mosselen met Frietjes, Hutspot, Konijn met pruimen or whatever other delicious Flemish recipes you can come up with 😉

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  • Jan Van der Eecken (2/4/2011)


    While you are at it Koen, why don't you add Vlaamse Stoverij, Mosselen met Frietjes, Hutspot, Konijn met pruimen or whatever other delicious Flemish recipes you can come up with 😉

    Maybe I'll just upload an SOS Piet cookbook 🙂

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  • Lynn Pettis (2/3/2011)


    Lynn Pettis (2/2/2011)


    Amazing it is how arrogant some may be.

    And then to post here as well?

    EDIT: For those interested, the links above are broken.

    Probably missing rather than broken... I'm thinking that Steve probably responded to the "report" that Gail and I sent in on those posts.

    --Jeff Moden


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    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

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  • Steve Jones - SSC Editor (2/3/2011)


    I have removed the "questionhacker" thread and account. It might not stop him from coming back, but I also sent an email, so we'll see.

    However, in reading the thread, I thought it was time to write this note.

    I have gotten a little concerned over the large number of, and rather quick, amount of posts that occur when someone steps over what many consider an inappropriate line, or they post with little information, an "urgent" or other faux pas on the forum.

    There is no shortage of jack*sses on the Internet and working with SQL Server. My apologies, but it's the word that fits. However that doesn't mean that we should call them all out, or more importantly, add our "call-out" to the thread. One person making a statement is enough. Two provide emphasis, but 3 or 4, especially when deviating into comments on how poor other posters have acted.

    I would like to ask that you keep the discussions germane to the question and not respond to an inappropriate post if someone else has. If the person is willing to listen, they will. The 2nd, 3rd, or 4th person posting is wasting their time if the person won't listen to the first person.

    I'd also ask that you step back a minute or two and think about whether the person is being a jack*ss or are they ignorant? If it's the latter, give them a little more leeway.

    Don't forget that if you post often, you have a different perspective on the forums, and more importantly, you have *context* for what's happened in the past. Many people don't have that same context and you have to remember that.

    Try to limit the humor, the snarky comments, and the minor slap on the wrist posts to this thread. They mean something to you, but to someone coming into a post from Google, or asking a question, they can be overwhelming.

    Sage advice. Even a mob on the "right" side of an issue is still... a mob. Thanks, Steve.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • I agree with Steve. It was a good move to remove the that thread. We are a friendly batch of IT professionals. Please dont let obnoxious people get the worst of you. If you see that the thread is going in a bad direction, Please please ignore it.

    I have been insulted very badly and what I did was to ignore the whole thread and never bother with that poster anymore (But Lynn gave that poster a peace of his mind).

    Just my 2 cents

    -Roy

  • Old Chinese Story that my SO told me once.

    Two men were arguing in the middle of a market place. One man was very stupid and one man was very smart.

    Both men were arrested for creating a disturbance and brought before the magistrate. The judge listened to the problem (I don't remember what it was), and the arguments of both men. Everyone in the court could see that the stupid man was wrong and the smart man was right. So everyone was surprised when the judge let the stupid man go on his way and sentenced the smart man to jail time.

    "But," the smart man cried, "I was in the right. Why do I have to go to jail?"

    "Because," the judge replied, "The stupid man was too foolish to understand that he was wrong. But you are intelligent enough to know better than to argue with a stupid man."

    EDIT: I should add I'm guilty of forgetting this story every time I actually need to remember it.

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