January 26, 2011 at 11:52 am
GSquared (1/26/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Trey Staker (1/26/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Elliott Whitlow (1/26/2011)
Gianluca Sartori (1/26/2011)
Funny. I always thought that Hubbard had written Scientology related books. Looks like this one is focused on other topics.I read that as: he wasn't always a nut..
He was never a nut, he was a fraud. Scientology was invented as a bet between two SF authors.
Do I smell a religious discrimination here on the Thread? It's not my religion but there are people who believe that stuff.
I've heard the story from people who were there when the bet was made, it is a widely known story. If Steve asks me to delete the comment, I will.
The bet was supposedly made between Hubbard and Heinlein (they were friends). Both denied it ever happened. Time magazine swears it did. That's the most common version I've heard.
I believe it was Robert Silverberg who says he was there when it happened. Other SF authors have vouched for this. I've also heard that Heinlein didn't exactly deny it.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
January 26, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
GSquared (1/26/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Trey Staker (1/26/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Elliott Whitlow (1/26/2011)
Gianluca Sartori (1/26/2011)
Funny. I always thought that Hubbard had written Scientology related books. Looks like this one is focused on other topics.I read that as: he wasn't always a nut..
He was never a nut, he was a fraud. Scientology was invented as a bet between two SF authors.
Do I smell a religious discrimination here on the Thread? It's not my religion but there are people who believe that stuff.
I've heard the story from people who were there when the bet was made, it is a widely known story. If Steve asks me to delete the comment, I will.
The bet was supposedly made between Hubbard and Heinlein (they were friends). Both denied it ever happened. Time magazine swears it did. That's the most common version I've heard.
I believe it was Robert Silverberg who says he was there when it happened. Other SF authors have vouched for this. I've also heard that Heinlein didn't exactly deny it.
As mentioned, I've heard different versions over the years, from different sources. It really doesn't matter much to me, either way.
If you want to give Scientology a fair shake, check out http://www.scientology.org. If you don't care to, that's up to you too.
Personally, I've seen Dianetics and Scientology technologies work. They make a huge, positive difference in my life. That's good enough for me. Every group has it's over-exuberant supporters and detractors.
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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January 26, 2011 at 12:09 pm
SQLkiwi (1/26/2011)
WayneS (1/26/2011)
Well, Joe still has his rhetoric, but it seems to have been toned down quite a bit. Almost an attempt to be humorous about it.He really seems to be making an effort. Good to see!
He definitely seems to be going in the right direction. That's good.
January 26, 2011 at 12:19 pm
Trey Staker (1/26/2011)
I guess I'll appologize for being too sensitive.
Trey, don't apologize for standing up and voicing your opinion. Every now and again, everyone needs a reminder than none of us is perfect and that bashing anything makes us less than what we could be.
In this particular case, all I saw was a discussion on the origins of Scientology. But, like you, it's not my thing. Different people may have read that statement in a different context than either of us.
Given how easy it is to devolve into e-bullying and e-bashing these days, we do need the occasional voice of reason, even on The Thread, to remind us that we are professionals and we have better things to do with our energy.
Thanks for voicing your concerns, Trey. Feel free to voice them again should the need arise.
January 26, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Trey Staker (1/26/2011)
I guess I'll appologize for being too sensitive. Again, Scientology isn't my religion but I do belong to a religion that does get bashed a lot. I spent 6 months in a job listening to everyone around me bash on that religion. None of my coworkers knew that I belonged to that religion. Most of what they said was based on stereo types and misinformation, some of it was probably right on. For the most part they just had problems with religion in general not just my specific religion. Overtime they figured out what religion I belonged to and the bashing stopped because of who I was.After that time I made a decision that whenever I heard someone criticising religion I'd atleast step up and say something. I've studied many different religions and have come to realize that any religion has it's nuts (fanatical people), funky beliefs and things that are hard to except for people that don't hold the same value/belief system.
No real need to apologize. It just struck me out of the blue as odd considering how many topics this thread has "mocked" over time. I get the same thing concerning my religion.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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January 26, 2011 at 12:25 pm
GilaMonster (1/25/2011)
GSquared (1/25/2011)
My usual estimate for that kind of thing is "less than eternity, but longer than breakfast". By that time, I usually don't care if I offend someone, but it's never actually offended anyone yet if I deliver it correctly.I'll remember that one. Last time I was put on the spot like that I replied 'somewhere between 5 minutes and 5 months' and was told in reply 'You're full of crap'
At that point in time, I tell people "Your guess is as good as mine and considering what I just told you, remember that my guess is wrong." 😉
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
January 26, 2011 at 12:28 pm
GSquared (1/26/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
GSquared (1/26/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Trey Staker (1/26/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Elliott Whitlow (1/26/2011)
Gianluca Sartori (1/26/2011)
Funny. I always thought that Hubbard had written Scientology related books. Looks like this one is focused on other topics.I read that as: he wasn't always a nut..
He was never a nut, he was a fraud. Scientology was invented as a bet between two SF authors.
Do I smell a religious discrimination here on the Thread? It's not my religion but there are people who believe that stuff.
I've heard the story from people who were there when the bet was made, it is a widely known story. If Steve asks me to delete the comment, I will.
The bet was supposedly made between Hubbard and Heinlein (they were friends). Both denied it ever happened. Time magazine swears it did. That's the most common version I've heard.
I believe it was Robert Silverberg who says he was there when it happened. Other SF authors have vouched for this. I've also heard that Heinlein didn't exactly deny it.
As mentioned, I've heard different versions over the years, from different sources. It really doesn't matter much to me, either way.
If you want to give Scientology a fair shake, check out http://www.scientology.org. If you don't care to, that's up to you too.
Personally, I've seen Dianetics and Scientology technologies work. They make a huge, positive difference in my life. That's good enough for me. Every group has it's over-exuberant supporters and detractors.
Oh, I've read up on Scientology quite a bit over the years. Even took their personality test when I was 19. I got everything I wanted out of that occasion. My friends and were walking in Boston and had half a dozen donuts that they wouldn't let us bring into Tower Records. We were trying to give them away to people as we didn't want to just throw them out when a cute young woman with a clipboard came up and told us she knew some people that would eat the donuts. So we went with her to the Scientology HQ and sure enough they ate all our donuts!
Then we went to Tower Records.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
January 26, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Oh, I've read up on Scientology quite a bit over the years. Even took their personality test when I was 19. I got everything I wanted out of that occasion. My friends and were walking in Boston and had half a dozen donuts that they wouldn't let us bring into Tower Records. We were trying to give them away to people as we didn't want to just throw them out when a cute young woman with a clipboard came up and told us she knew some people that would eat the donuts. So we went with her to the Scientology HQ and sure enough they ate all our donuts!Then we went to Tower Records.
LOL
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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January 26, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Grant Fritchey (1/24/2011)
Jeff Moden (1/24/2011)
Grant Fritchey (1/24/2011)
Threadizens not on Twitter might not have heard the word. I just took a job with Red Gate. It's up on the blog.Absolutely awesome. I didn't believe they could raise the already high collective IQ at RedGate. I was obviously wrong. Well done, Grant!
If I may ask, besides "working from home in pajama kilts" 😀 and travelling, what is it that they'll have you doing?
Basically, my job is to supply a geek voice for marketing. I'm to write books, articles, blog entries, do web casts, video, voice, present at user groups and events, anything and everything to help get the word out on what Red Gate tools can do and how you can use them to do more. An advocate. In my spare time I'm supposed to keep my skills up, do a bit of consulting work for them, third tier support, that sort of thing. It should be a lot of fun, if hard work.
VERY cool! From "Scary DBA" to "Kilted Evangelist". 😀
The good part is that no no longer have to put up with that one developer who thought he was God's gift to the database world.
Shifting gears, are you going to keep your local PASS group running or give that to someone else?
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
January 26, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Dave Ballantyne (1/26/2011)
GilaMonster (1/26/2011)
Dave Ballantyne (1/25/2011)
Any volunteers to read through a draft of an article for me ?Thanks....
Topic?
Loop unrolling - ie Cursor removal. Pretty high level stuff.
That's one of my favorite subjects. I'd be happy to take a look at the technical aspects for you.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
January 26, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Jeff Moden (1/26/2011)
Dave Ballantyne (1/26/2011)
GilaMonster (1/26/2011)
Dave Ballantyne (1/25/2011)
Any volunteers to read through a draft of an article for me ?Thanks....
Topic?
Loop unrolling - ie Cursor removal. Pretty high level stuff.
That's one of my favorite subjects. I'd be happy to take a look at the technical aspects for you.
Ah... sorry. I got a little behind on the thread. I see you already have enough volunteers to help.
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
January 26, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Where the hell did January go? I think it might have been buried in snow and I missed it.
Wasn't the snow. I missed most of it too, and no snow here (what's snow anyway?)
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
January 26, 2011 at 1:29 pm
GilaMonster (1/26/2011)
Stefan Krzywicki (1/26/2011)
Where the hell did January go? I think it might have been buried in snow and I missed it.Wasn't the snow. I missed most of it too, and no snow here (what's snow anyway?)
It is a little like snu.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
January 26, 2011 at 1:32 pm
CirquedeSQLeil (1/26/2011)
Gail, you trying to get on at RedGate too?
No, but...
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
January 26, 2011 at 1:37 pm
GilaMonster (1/26/2011)
CirquedeSQLeil (1/26/2011)
Gail, you trying to get on at RedGate too?No, but...
Something like a RedGate then?
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
_______________________________________________
I have given a name to my pain...MCM SQL Server, MVP
SQL RNNR
Posting Performance Based Questions - Gail Shaw[/url]
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