March 6, 2009 at 8:19 am
Graeme, I do not think it is that easy to offend anyone here.. 😀
Yes, the cultural differences are there. But that should not be the reason why someone is not proactive. It is their individual behavior. I have worked with people from different countries and I see some are just plain lazy. Some will do just what you ask them to do and some will have an attitude and will not do what you ask them to do. Its not about their culture. Its their individual attitude.
-Roy
March 6, 2009 at 8:20 am
Lynn Pettis (3/6/2009)
GSquared (3/6/2009)
Roy Ernest (3/6/2009)
I was not able to check this thread much yesterday since I had a late night shift the day before. I check today morning and this thread has grown like a monster.And all of you are trying to raise your post counts.... :hehe:
What "trying"? We are succeeding! Or, as Lynn might plagiarize, "There is no try." 🙂
No, no, no. If I was going to plagiarize the line, I'd use the whole line: Do or do not, there is no try
Good! I can feel the plagiarism within you! Use it, it makes you stronger! Strike me down!
well, not me, that shrively guy in a bathrobe.
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"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."
March 6, 2009 at 8:34 am
jcrawf02 (3/6/2009)
well, not me, that shrively guy in a bathrobe.
I think I'm about to spew coffee on the desk. C'mon, Friday morning, really did we need that image :hehe:
March 6, 2009 at 8:48 am
Come on... the emperor isn't THAT ugly... and he's all covered anyways.
Why would you want to picture him any other way!
March 6, 2009 at 9:01 am
RBarryYoung (3/6/2009)
You know this is the most amazing part to me, how can an MSDN moderator act like this?
Something occurred to me...
How much of that came about because we didn't show the expected respect and awe for position/title? (As in, his expectation)
Over at MSDN (I'm not putting those forums down, and I only read them occasionally), it's blatantly obvious who's an MVP, who's an MSFT employee and who's a moderator. Those are flags that are automatically added
I recall Jonathan Kehayias blogging a while back that sometimes when questions are asked there the OP puts a requirement 'MVP only'. (http://sqlblog.com/blogs/jonathan_kehayias/archive/2009/01/19/how-to-ask-a-forums-question.aspx)
So, someone used to that environment, who's used to been treated as a guru comes here and finds a bunch of mere users (after all, none of us put titles in sigs, nor are they visible anywhere) who refuse to show the expected respect.
I know that iff I went over to MSDN and starte throwing my weight around, telling people what to do, criticizing the regulars, etc I can expect to be sat on hard. My reputation here means nothing when I'm posting on another forum.
Perhaps he expected we would automatically know who he is, and treat him with the same respect as he's used to on MSDN.
I wonder if Jonathan still reads this. As another MSDN moderator it would be interesting to get his opinion.
He committed multiple sins in the ethos of on-line posting. Including tying to tell Steve how to do his job too. He was actually most ticked off that Steve did not just shut down the threads as soon as someone disagreed with him! (If that was how it worked here, he would have been shut down for his posts first.)
Attitude of someone who's used to being in charge and saying how things should and will be done?
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
March 6, 2009 at 9:05 am
Roy Ernest (3/6/2009)
And all of you are trying to raise your post counts.... :hehe:
Indeed. I wonder if I can manage another 20 tonight. :w00t:
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
March 6, 2009 at 9:08 am
Nope only another 19 needed, 18 after you reply to this! 😉
March 6, 2009 at 9:13 am
Ninja's_RGR'us (3/6/2009)
Nope only another 19 needed, 18 after you reply to this! 😉
Ooh will there be a party? Can I bring beer? 😀
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March 6, 2009 at 9:14 am
GilaMonster (3/6/2009)
Roy Ernest (3/6/2009)
And all of you are trying to raise your post counts.... :hehe:Indeed. I wonder if I can manage another 20 tonight. :w00t:
Raising the post count, quicker to respond it is. Easier. More seductive. Once down that path you start, control your destiny it will.
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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March 6, 2009 at 9:14 am
I'd be curious to know if Mangal has bothered to check his original thread. What had turned into a "heated discussion" on a reply he had made to Steve has actually turned into a discussion on his original post.
Had he not made that initial response, we may have gotten to that point a lot sooner.
March 6, 2009 at 9:16 am
Jonathan's at boot camp, be back in a couple weeks, so we'll see if he gets this.
I definitely felt the "ego" in that thread, someone that wanted to drive the discussion and have it go "his way", not willing to argue, but wanting support for an idea.
There are MVPs that act like that, but I think many don't. Or at least I'd like to think they they respect others opinions, especially on non-technical matters.
March 6, 2009 at 10:09 am
sidebar (can you sidebar a sidebar?) - Wow, Jeff actually got a business reason out of an OP (http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic668781-149-1.aspx)
without having to pull teeth.
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"stewsterl 80804 (10/16/2009)I guess when you stop and try to understand the solution provided you not only learn, but save yourself some headaches when you need to make any slight changes."
March 6, 2009 at 10:12 am
KA-CHING!
Mr. MSDN MVP just joined a fairly well settled thread to offer a solution "very easy to understand and modify as well." Of course it had twice the number of lines of code and ran thirty times slower but I guess he showed ME.
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic668871-338-2.aspx#bm669990
My response and posting this here gets me two posts for today.
KA-CHING!!
P.S. I object to the MSDN MVP's current designation as a "Valued Member".
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March 6, 2009 at 10:14 am
Jeff handled that well and got a nice reason.
March 6, 2009 at 10:15 am
Usually when someone asks for a business reason why you are doing this or that, the OP usually runs out and here is one who actually gave a business reason. 🙂
Today is the day of wonders... 😛
-Roy
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