January 4, 2011 at 9:00 am
Brandie Tarvin (1/4/2011)
Oh. Hey, let's use that as a springboard.What types of articles do you like best? The kind that are most "talk" and little code, the kind that are all code and little "talk" or the kind that have about a 50-50 split?
I do admit that I find it difficult at times to slog through code-heavy articles. Part of it depends on what machine I'm on (laptop or desktop) and my monitor size. Another part depends on how well my eyes are focusing for the day. The third part, of course, depends on how well I understand the base problem or example.
Let's take the short-circuiting article as an example. At first I was hesitant to read it because I had no idea what short-circuiting was and didn't want to spend the day trying to figure out what I'd just read. But because I've taken programming classes before and the article started off with that explanation, I realized I knew exactly what the article was about and found it very informative. I admit the SQL examples listed didn't grab me if only because they're not the type of SQL I use at my current job. But the article grabbed me, I enjoyed it, and I understood what Gianluca was saying because of the way it was presented.
What about everyone else?
I like articles with good explanations, low on jargon that use code and illustrations where appropriate to help clarify. Conversational writing styles seem to work best for me.
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January 4, 2011 at 9:04 am
bitbucket-25253 (1/4/2011)
Speaking of blogs and twitter, just happened to read Steve's (Jones) blog posting for January 3rd.Congratulations for once again being selected as a MVP.
Congrats indeed.
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January 4, 2011 at 9:08 am
CirquedeSQLeil (1/4/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (1/4/2011)
Dave Ballantyne (1/4/2011)
Brandie Tarvin (1/4/2011)
And I found out I wasn't following Dave either. Silly me.Funnily enough , most people arent surprised to find out they are not following me 😀
Well I just followed you and Grant, so I can snark back on Twitter too. Because there's just not enough SQLSnark in this world.
Hey! Someone should grab that as a user name! @=)
What is your twitter handle?
Nevermind - see that one answered later in the thread.
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January 4, 2011 at 9:58 am
Brandie Tarvin (1/4/2011)
Oh. Hey, let's use that as a springboard.What types of articles do you like best? The kind that are most "talk" and little code, the kind that are all code and little "talk" or the kind that have about a 50-50 split?
I do admit that I find it difficult at times to slog through code-heavy articles. Part of it depends on what machine I'm on (laptop or desktop) and my monitor size. Another part depends on how well my eyes are focusing for the day. The third part, of course, depends on how well I understand the base problem or example.
Let's take the short-circuiting article as an example. At first I was hesitant to read it because I had no idea what short-circuiting was and didn't want to spend the day trying to figure out what I'd just read. But because I've taken programming classes before and the article started off with that explanation, I realized I knew exactly what the article was about and found it very informative. I admit the SQL examples listed didn't grab me if only because they're not the type of SQL I use at my current job. But the article grabbed me, I enjoyed it, and I understood what Gianluca was saying because of the way it was presented.
What about everyone else?
I tend to skip past the code and then go back and look at it after I understand the text.
It's a proven thing that the human mind will first go a bit blank and then reject/avoid data that is couched in unfamiliar terminology. It will do similar things to overly complex prose unaccompanied by samples/illustrations/diagrams. Those and trying to study past missed basic data are some of the key barriers to learning, so articles that ignore that will usually create less value than otherwise.
The short-circuiting one started out by defining what it was about (terminology) and by giving examples, so it worked well. That's part of what makes it a good article.
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January 4, 2011 at 10:25 am
Koen (da-zero) (1/4/2011)
GilaMonster (1/4/2011)
<sigh> Talking plagiarism. He really should know better...http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1042151-2799-1.aspx
Waw, LutzM's reply is really brutal 😀
(but I'm thinking the same thing)
Missed it when Steve cleaned up. Someone enlighten me?
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January 4, 2011 at 10:34 am
GilaMonster (1/4/2011)
Koen (da-zero) (1/4/2011)
GilaMonster (1/4/2011)
<sigh> Talking plagiarism. He really should know better...http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1042151-2799-1.aspx
Waw, LutzM's reply is really brutal 😀
(but I'm thinking the same thing)
Missed it when Steve cleaned up. Someone enlighten me?
He basically asserted that there appears to be a geographic concentration on the subject of eggregious copyright infringement in the world of coding. He merely said that a little more directly. Well, significantly more directly.
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January 4, 2011 at 10:54 am
LutzM (1/4/2011)
Koen (da-zero) (1/4/2011)
Waw, LutzM's reply is really brutal 😀
(but I'm thinking the same thing)
I'm sorry if it comes across brutal. It was definitely not my intention.
I'm confident I could even stand a trial since I didn't really say anything. Or should I move into politics instead?
Don't apologize 🙂
You said what I was thinking, only I didn't have the balls to say it.
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January 4, 2011 at 10:57 am
I still don't understand what the purpose of reprinting the article was. His explanation (preserving it for Denali) made no sense to me. The article's going to remain up on SSC's website for quite some time. It's not like it'll be removed soon and he won't be able to reference it.
January 4, 2011 at 11:03 am
Brandie Tarvin (1/4/2011)
I still don't understand what the purpose of reprinting the article was. His explanation (preserving it for Denali) made no sense to me. The article's going to remain up on SSC's website for quite some time. It's not like it'll be removed soon and he won't be able to reference it.
I think he wanted all the resources for Denali in one convenient place. Maybe he never heard of the concept of URLs.
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January 4, 2011 at 11:30 am
GilaMonster (1/4/2011)
Koen (da-zero) (1/4/2011)
GilaMonster (1/4/2011)
<sigh> Talking plagiarism. He really should know better...http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1042151-2799-1.aspx
Waw, LutzM's reply is really brutal 😀
(but I'm thinking the same thing)
Missed it when Steve cleaned up. Someone enlighten me?
I think I forgot what I did as well 😉
January 4, 2011 at 11:53 am
Dave Ballantyne (1/4/2011)
Chris Morris-439714 (1/4/2011)
Craig Farrell (1/3/2011)
For anyone following the earlier infringment discussion, some sleuthing around SSC finally revealed the blog owner. A brief PM conversation seems to have dealed with that issue.Happy New Year! Gods, New Years is a mixed blessing for me. It's also my birthday. This last one was a biggie to me. 35 years old. I expected to be somewhere else at this point in my life. *cracks knuckles* I'z got wurkz ta due.
Well done Craig. Wonder how Dave B got on with his? IIRC they were more extreme and obvious plagiarism.
No joy on either front, both still there
http://arabprogrammers.blogspot.com/2010/12/returning-top-x-row-for-each-group.html
On the first one, click on the "Report Abuse" button, select the radio button with the CopyRight indication, and follow the appropriate link to report the infringment to the DMCA.
Then, since there is no "Report Abuse" button that I can discern on that second article, I'd just report it the same way as the first one.
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January 4, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Steve, congrats on the MVP renewal! Definitely well deserved!
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January 4, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Jeff Moden (1/4/2011)
Steve, congrats on the MVP renewal! Definitely well deserved!
Agreed. Congratz Steve! And thanks for all the fish.
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January 4, 2011 at 1:26 pm
GSquared (1/4/2011)
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He basically asserted that there appears to be a geographic concentration on the subject of eggregious copyright infringement in the world of coding. He merely said that a little more directly. Well, significantly more directly.
I basically made the assumption, if someone would plot a chart with plagiarized articles and the like across geographical regions, that there would be a pattern.
Neither did I describe a specific pattern nor did I point to a specific region.
I simply asked the OP, if, based on his experience, this would be coincidence or not.
I don't think I asserted anything but rather asking for an opinion. If there's an impression of the former, this was not intentionally.
I also asked if he didn't know about the issues involved in plagiarism or if he knew about it but didn't take it as serious as we do.
Not more, but nothing less either.
Any answer from "I don't think there exist any pattern except a random distribution" to "Yes, I do see a pattern X either because of Y or I don't know." would have been valid for the first part.
Anyway, taking down the thread was the appropriate actiion. Unless there is a chance for people interested in getting involved to read my original comment I don't think we should stress the issue any further. It's up to Steve to eithe post it here or send it to me so I can re-post it if he think there's a need for it. I actually don't.
January 4, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Had to share ... On facebook one of my wifes friends posts
On drilling into C++ from C#, I know now why C# is so called "word safe": Bloody hell C++ can be hard work, by comparison, it's like a surly teenager. So far my programs have not run because of the occasional "+" instead of a "<<", and stuff being not in the "correct order". By heck it's pedantic...
Thrashes on ...
Yes, you fool , it is the languages fault that you meant bit shift left rather than add.
Do you even know what bit shift is ?
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