December 29, 2010 at 5:29 pm
In copyrighted works there is often a disclaimer that states that you can quote the work without permission as long as the quote is less than a certain percentage of the new work. In the case of that blog post I'd say that since ~90% is copied directly from the article it probably should be taken down as plaigarism.
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December 29, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Jack Corbett (12/29/2010)
In copyrighted works there is often a disclaimer that states that you can quote the work without permission as long as the quote is less than a certain percentage of the new work. In the case of that blog post I'd say that since ~90% is copied directly from the article it probably should be taken down as plaigarism.
I have to agree with Jack. He even admits to doing a copy/paste. Yes, he indicates his source, but it is still plagarism. The only link I saw that you could use to contact him is one for reporting abuse. Don't see anything else that you could use.
December 29, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Craig Farrell (12/29/2010)
Hey guys. Blogging/articles and the like are relatively new to me, so I'd like your educated opinions on how I should look at this:http://balapalani.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.html
It's roughly a copy/paste of the second half of my (1) article. Now, I'm torn. On the one side I would love to see those definitions more clearly defined throughout the industry. At the same time, g'damn. A straight up copy/paste? Really? He does link back to here at SSC, however.
So, I'll throw up my newbie flag here and ask for some advice.
From my point of view, it's not plagiarism. It starts with "Getting Started in SQL Server By Craig Farrell, 2010/12/09" followed by a link to the original article. I guess that's about as much as you can ask for in terms of referencing the original source....
December 29, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Craig Farrell (12/29/2010)
Happy holidays all. Just got back from my Christmas vacation. I didn't bother throwing backup into that thread because... well... I didn't have anything to say but Ditto. 🙂Now, to catch up on a week's worth of backlog...
Violation and plagiarism. The person has linked to you, but not really added any commentary or value. They should not republish more than a para and even then with commentary on why they have quoted it.
December 29, 2010 at 6:26 pm
LutzM (12/29/2010)
Craig Farrell (12/29/2010)
Hey guys. Blogging/articles and the like are relatively new to me, so I'd like your educated opinions on how I should look at this:http://balapalani.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.html
It's roughly a copy/paste of the second half of my (1) article. Now, I'm torn. On the one side I would love to see those definitions more clearly defined throughout the industry. At the same time, g'damn. A straight up copy/paste? Really? He does link back to here at SSC, however.
So, I'll throw up my newbie flag here and ask for some advice.
From my point of view, it's not plagiarism. It starts with "Getting Started in SQL Server By Craig Farrell, 2010/12/09" followed by a link to the original article. I guess that's about as much as you can ask for in terms of referencing the original source....
Didn't get permission to copy his work. Makes it plagarism even though he cited his source.
December 29, 2010 at 6:26 pm
So I guess I have to withdraw my point of view then...
On a second thought, there is one important thing missing: your approval prior to publishing.
December 29, 2010 at 6:48 pm
LutzM (12/29/2010)
So I guess I have to withdraw my point of view then...On a second thought, there is one important thing missing: your approval prior to publishing.
Yes. Considering the length to which the copy was done. As Steve said, paragraph at most with commentary and then after that you should seek permission.
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December 30, 2010 at 12:00 am
Craig Farrell (12/29/2010)
Hey guys. Blogging/articles and the like are relatively new to me, so I'd like your educated opinions on how I should look at this:http://balapalani.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.html
It's roughly a copy/paste of the second half of my (1) article. Now, I'm torn. On the one side I would love to see those definitions more clearly defined throughout the industry. At the same time, g'damn. A straight up copy/paste? Really? He does link back to here at SSC, however.
So, I'll throw up my newbie flag here and ask for some advice.
In my opinion it's plagiarism. If he really liked the article, he just could've posted a link with the comment:
"I really liked this article. It's about bla bla bla ... (insert some opinions here). For more information, read the original article."
If people don't read it carefully, they might think he wrote it. And of course he's stealing google hits from you 🙂
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December 30, 2010 at 12:13 am
This plagiarism reminds me of this topic:
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic704713-148-1.aspx
Basically a guy responds to a topic that has been solved a year ago by Phil Parkin. Phil provided a link to a thread on MSDN where someone asked a similar question and then finds the solution on his own. The guy just copied the answer from the MSDN thread to his own blog (only providing a link at the bottom, which can easily be misssed) and then he references to his own blog in the SSC thread. :rolleyes:
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December 30, 2010 at 2:02 am
Lynn Pettis (12/29/2010)
Didn't get permission to copy his work. Makes it plagarism even though he cited his source.
No, makes it copyright violation.
Plagarism is taking someone else's work and presenting it as your own. It's the 'presenting as own work' that's key. Since there's attribution and links, that's not the case. It's plain and simple copyright violation - reproduced without permission.
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December 30, 2010 at 2:40 am
Koen (da-zero) (12/30/2010)
(Devil's advocate: Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery :-))
Cant say im feeling flattered 😉
http://arabprogrammers.blogspot.com/2010/12/returning-top-x-row-for-each-group.html
EDIT :
And another...
December 30, 2010 at 3:00 am
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Koen (da-zero) (12/30/2010)
(Devil's advocate: Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery :-))
Cant say im feeling flattered 😉
http://arabprogrammers.blogspot.com/2010/12/returning-top-x-row-for-each-group.html
EDIT :
And another...
You have quite a fan club in the Middle East 🙂
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December 30, 2010 at 3:51 am
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December 30, 2010 at 5:36 am
Craig Farrell (12/29/2010)
Hey guys. Blogging/articles and the like are relatively new to me, so I'd like your educated opinions on how I should look at this:http://balapalani.blogspot.com/2010_12_01_archive.html
It's roughly a copy/paste of the second half of my (1) article. Now, I'm torn. On the one side I would love to see those definitions more clearly defined throughout the industry. At the same time, g'damn. A straight up copy/paste? Really? He does link back to here at SSC, however.
So, I'll throw up my newbie flag here and ask for some advice.
Land on him... both feet. And if that doesn't work, tweet about him and let the Swarm devour him.
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