Are the posted questions getting worse?
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor (12/7/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (12/7/2010)
I have to wonder if this thread is encouraging people to respond more harshly to articles, posts, etc. Certain we've seen an uptick amongst ourselves of bashing other posters. But today I see this in response to one of Jeff's articles.Mike McIver (12/7/2010)
Really . . . I don't know where to start. <CommentCutting> This article is an example of how poor coding propagates...We know the old saying. There's a critic in every crowd. Several of us have already responded to this post, but I wonder how many of us would have answered the way we did if that second comment weren't inserted into the respondent's reply.
Are we propagating bad internet / forum behavior? This thread can be seen by anyone, remember. Even those who don't have an SSC login.
I have been a little concerned about this, trying to keep an eye on it. There is a little "piling on" at times, and I'm not sure if it's good or bad. On one hand I like to see people supporting others, or emphasizing that more information is needed. Easy for an OP to dismiss one person. However when it becomes 4 or 5 people, I think it can be a little intimidating.
I've noticed the same thing, and have been working to avoid it.
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Brandie Tarvin (12/7/2010)
Ray, FYI: If you get baked beans w/o sugar, you can add a tablespoon or two of dark brown sugar to my recipe too, but most varieties of beans come sweet enough that I usually omit the sugar.I usually go with the Bush's Baked Beans. Does that suffice, or would you recommend something else?
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Ray K (12/7/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (12/7/2010)
Ray, FYI: If you get baked beans w/o sugar, you can add a tablespoon or two of dark brown sugar to my recipe too, but most varieties of beans come sweet enough that I usually omit the sugar.I usually go with the Bush's Baked Beans. Does that suffice, or would you recommend something else?
Same here. But Bush's has a brown sugar version, so don't add sugar if you're using that version of it. Otherwise, it gets overwhelming.
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Brandie Tarvin (12/7/2010)
Alvin Ramard (12/7/2010)
Roy Ernest (12/7/2010)
I am trying to keep my word that I gave to Jeff. I am writing an article on how to have successful net meetings. 🙂 If I dont write it, I might get a frozen Pork chop launched at me. 🙂Want to share pork chop recipes?
10 x 9 pan or casserole dish
Lots of baked beans
Mustard - favorite flavor / brand (to taste)
Pepper (to taste)
Salt (to taste)
Preheat oven to 375(F). Not sure what the temperature conversion is.
Put baked beans in pan. Add condiments to taste. Tenderize pork chops lightly (don't smush 'em). Work chops underneath baked beans.
Bake for 35-45 minutes until chops are tender and cooked clear through.
Drool.
Add a little sliced chorizo and a generous handful of garlic, a splash of olive oil and a sprinkle of thyme - and voila, Spanish grub. Yum!
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My lunch yesterday
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Used to be a joint in town that served pork chops stuffed with crab meat, absolute heaven. Of course it closed.
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What a coincidence, I am going to have roasted pork chop with Beans and rice for lunch. 🙂
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Health nut... @=)
Looks good, though. Still, I must mock you on your use of the URL tag. @=) Mock mock mock.
EDIT: I should add I did the exact same thing yesterday and had to go back and edit a post because of it.
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GSquared (12/7/2010)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (12/7/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (12/7/2010)
I have to wonder if this thread is encouraging people to respond more harshly to articles, posts, etc. Certain we've seen an uptick amongst ourselves of bashing other posters. But today I see this in response to one of Jeff's articles.Mike McIver (12/7/2010)
Really . . . I don't know where to start. <CommentCutting> This article is an example of how poor coding propagates...We know the old saying. There's a critic in every crowd. Several of us have already responded to this post, but I wonder how many of us would have answered the way we did if that second comment weren't inserted into the respondent's reply.
Are we propagating bad internet / forum behavior? This thread can be seen by anyone, remember. Even those who don't have an SSC login.
I have been a little concerned about this, trying to keep an eye on it. There is a little "piling on" at times, and I'm not sure if it's good or bad. On one hand I like to see people supporting others, or emphasizing that more information is needed. Easy for an OP to dismiss one person. However when it becomes 4 or 5 people, I think it can be a little intimidating.
I've noticed the same thing, and have been working to avoid it.
Same here. It's even a part of my limiting the number of posts I make to The Thread.
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Grant Fritchey (12/7/2010)
GSquared (12/7/2010)
Steve Jones - SSC Editor (12/7/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (12/7/2010)
I have to wonder if this thread is encouraging people to respond more harshly to articles, posts, etc. Certain we've seen an uptick amongst ourselves of bashing other posters. But today I see this in response to one of Jeff's articles.Mike McIver (12/7/2010)
Really . . . I don't know where to start. <CommentCutting> This article is an example of how poor coding propagates...We know the old saying. There's a critic in every crowd. Several of us have already responded to this post, but I wonder how many of us would have answered the way we did if that second comment weren't inserted into the respondent's reply.
Are we propagating bad internet / forum behavior? This thread can be seen by anyone, remember. Even those who don't have an SSC login.
I have been a little concerned about this, trying to keep an eye on it. There is a little "piling on" at times, and I'm not sure if it's good or bad. On one hand I like to see people supporting others, or emphasizing that more information is needed. Easy for an OP to dismiss one person. However when it becomes 4 or 5 people, I think it can be a little intimidating.
I've noticed the same thing, and have been working to avoid it.
Same here. It's even a part of my limiting the number of posts I make to The Thread.
Right on the dot. Actually me and Jeff talked about this over a beer. Maybe two beers. Or maybe lots of beers.. 😀
-Roy
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Two that produced the 'wtf' reaction tonight...
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1031451-391-1.aspx
Seriously?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1031507.aspx
Petty games with words and an attempt to be right?
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GilaMonster (12/7/2010)
Two that produced the 'wtf' reaction tonight...http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1031451-391-1.aspx
Seriously?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1031507.aspx
Petty games with words and an attempt to be right?
Well, after tonight it will be WTF. Then Saturday and Sunday. 😀
Alvin Ramard
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Alvin Ramard (12/7/2010)
GilaMonster (12/7/2010)
Two that produced the 'wtf' reaction tonight...http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1031451-391-1.aspx
Seriously?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1031507.aspx
Petty games with words and an attempt to be right?
Well, after tonight it will be WTF. Then Saturday and Sunday. 😀
What about WTT and WTW before WTF?
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CirquedeSQLeil (12/7/2010)
Alvin Ramard (12/7/2010)
GilaMonster (12/7/2010)
Two that produced the 'wtf' reaction tonight...http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic1031451-391-1.aspx
Seriously?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/FindPost1031507.aspx
Petty games with words and an attempt to be right?
Well, after tonight it will be WTF. Then Saturday and Sunday. 😀
What about WTT and WTW before WTF?
Well, right now all that's on my mind is Wait Till Friday night. 😀
Alvin Ramard
Memphis PASS Chapter[/url]All my SSC forum answers come with a money back guarantee. If you didn't like the answer then I'll gladly refund what you paid for it.For best practices on asking questions, please read the following article: Forum Etiquette: How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help[/url]
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