November 4, 2010 at 11:56 am
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Gianluca Sartori (11/4/2010)
Nothing to complain about today?Plenty, but I think most people are tired of hearing me whine about the Nightmare Project.
Nah - do tell.
Let's just say that if you and I have an informal chat about a problem and come to the agreement that X is a bad way of going about things and maybe we should consider alternatives and then you go to management and tell them that the system is useless because it can't do X and that I said X was impossible and that I'm being uncooperative, I'm going to be mildly peeved.
With good reason. BTW - I know the feeling.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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November 4, 2010 at 12:47 pm
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Gianluca Sartori (11/4/2010)
Nothing to complain about today?Plenty, but I think most people are tired of hearing me whine about the Nightmare Project.
Nah - do tell.
Let's just say that if you and I have an informal chat about a problem and come to the agreement that X is a bad way of going about things and maybe we should consider alternatives and then you go to management and tell them that the system is useless because it can't do X and that I said X was impossible and that I'm being uncooperative, I'm going to be mildly peeved.
With good reason. BTW - I know the feeling.
Here too.
Sounds like a Kevlar vest worn backwards is proper workplace attire.
Greg E
November 4, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Greg Edwards-268690 (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Gianluca Sartori (11/4/2010)
Nothing to complain about today?Plenty, but I think most people are tired of hearing me whine about the Nightmare Project.
Nah - do tell.
Let's just say that if you and I have an informal chat about a problem and come to the agreement that X is a bad way of going about things and maybe we should consider alternatives and then you go to management and tell them that the system is useless because it can't do X and that I said X was impossible and that I'm being uncooperative, I'm going to be mildly peeved.
With good reason. BTW - I know the feeling.
Here too.
Sounds like a Kevlar vest worn backwards is proper workplace attire.
Greg E
Personally thinking Hazmat suit with A/V recording gear tucked into random places to CYA.
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November 4, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Greg Edwards-268690 (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Gianluca Sartori (11/4/2010)
Nothing to complain about today?Plenty, but I think most people are tired of hearing me whine about the Nightmare Project.
Nah - do tell.
Let's just say that if you and I have an informal chat about a problem and come to the agreement that X is a bad way of going about things and maybe we should consider alternatives and then you go to management and tell them that the system is useless because it can't do X and that I said X was impossible and that I'm being uncooperative, I'm going to be mildly peeved.
With good reason. BTW - I know the feeling.
Here too.
Sounds like a Kevlar vest worn backwards is proper workplace attire.
Greg E
Sounds like my life for the last year. Every recommendation I make gets shot down. The only issue I have with it is when they come back 3 months later and complain about the decision that was made. It's really hard to hold back the "I told you so's".
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November 4, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Greg Edwards-268690 (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Gianluca Sartori (11/4/2010)
Nothing to complain about today?Plenty, but I think most people are tired of hearing me whine about the Nightmare Project.
Nah - do tell.
Let's just say that if you and I have an informal chat about a problem and come to the agreement that X is a bad way of going about things and maybe we should consider alternatives and then you go to management and tell them that the system is useless because it can't do X and that I said X was impossible and that I'm being uncooperative, I'm going to be mildly peeved.
With good reason. BTW - I know the feeling.
Here too.
Sounds like a Kevlar vest worn backwards is proper workplace attire.
Greg E
Nah - knives go right through Kevlar. Which makes me think of Ultimate Warrior on Spike.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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November 4, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Craig Farrell (11/4/2010)
Greg Edwards-268690 (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Gianluca Sartori (11/4/2010)
Nothing to complain about today?Plenty, but I think most people are tired of hearing me whine about the Nightmare Project.
Nah - do tell.
Let's just say that if you and I have an informal chat about a problem and come to the agreement that X is a bad way of going about things and maybe we should consider alternatives and then you go to management and tell them that the system is useless because it can't do X and that I said X was impossible and that I'm being uncooperative, I'm going to be mildly peeved.
With good reason. BTW - I know the feeling.
Here too.
Sounds like a Kevlar vest worn backwards is proper workplace attire.
Greg E
Personally thinking Hazmat suit with A/V recording gear tucked into random places to CYA.
Then that isn't so random afterall. 😉
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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November 4, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Gail, Sounds like all future informal conversations will need to include a member of management.
November 4, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Lynn Pettis (11/4/2010)
Gail, Sounds like all future informal conversations will need to include a member of management.
Or PA System
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November 4, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Lynn Pettis (11/4/2010)
Gail, Sounds like all future informal conversations will need to include a member of management.
The 'informal conversation' today (3rd time same issue) had the Project manager present, just so there was someone else there. Just so that there was a 3rd person who could remember more or less what happened.
Gail Shaw
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November 4, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Alvin Ramard (11/4/2010)
Lynn Pettis (11/4/2010)
Gail, Sounds like all future informal conversations will need to include a member of management.Or PA System
I'm seriously considering getting a voice recorder and recording all meetings and discussions. Openly and requesting everyone's permission. For 'documentation' purposes.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
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November 4, 2010 at 1:42 pm
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Lynn Pettis (11/4/2010)
Gail, Sounds like all future informal conversations will need to include a member of management.The 'informal conversation' today (3rd time same issue) had the Project manager present, just so there was someone else there. Just so that there was a 3rd person who could remember more or less what happened.
Heck with that! RECORD the meetings. Most MP3 players can record many hours of meeting conversation. So can many cell phones.
Let them know you're doing so, and say that it's for writing up notes on it later, to include in the project data. Anyone who objects shouldn't be in meetings anyway. It's no more of a big deal than keeping minutes.
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November 4, 2010 at 1:45 pm
GSquared (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Lynn Pettis (11/4/2010)
Gail, Sounds like all future informal conversations will need to include a member of management.The 'informal conversation' today (3rd time same issue) had the Project manager present, just so there was someone else there. Just so that there was a 3rd person who could remember more or less what happened.
Heck with that! RECORD the meetings. Most MP3 players can record many hours of meeting conversation. So can many cell phones.
Let them know you're doing so, and say that it's for writing up notes on it later, to include in the project data. Anyone who objects shouldn't be in meetings anyway. It's no more of a big deal than keeping minutes.
I agree. Just do it openly & no one can complain, or if they do...
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November 4, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Has anybody here contemplated changing their name (besides bob err ".") for the forums? I am curious if anybody much cares about the confusion that may drive.
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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November 4, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Grant Fritchey (11/4/2010)
GSquared (11/4/2010)
GilaMonster (11/4/2010)
Lynn Pettis (11/4/2010)
Gail, Sounds like all future informal conversations will need to include a member of management.The 'informal conversation' today (3rd time same issue) had the Project manager present, just so there was someone else there. Just so that there was a 3rd person who could remember more or less what happened.
Heck with that! RECORD the meetings. Most MP3 players can record many hours of meeting conversation. So can many cell phones.
Let them know you're doing so, and say that it's for writing up notes on it later, to include in the project data. Anyone who objects shouldn't be in meetings anyway. It's no more of a big deal than keeping minutes.
I agree. Just do it openly & no one can complain, or if they do...
I would be tempted to add being tired of being misquoted.
EDIT: Brain and hands out of sync, again!
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November 4, 2010 at 3:04 pm
CirquedeSQLeil (11/4/2010)
Has anybody here contemplated changing their name (besides bob err ".") for the forums? I am curious if anybody much cares about the confusion that may drive.
I did at the beginning just to maintain privacy. But after awhile I decided that I wanted my name to be recognized (for good or ill) and it was worthwhile to let people know who I really am. I can't remember if I used to have my real picture up or not...
Sincerely,
Fred.
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