October 13, 2010 at 12:24 pm
The Dixie Flatline (10/13/2010)
I duuno how ,pls any1 explane
There is just something I always find curious about posts like these. If English isn't the OP's first language, then how do they come up with words like "duunno" for "don't know" or "explane" for "explain"?
You're forgetting the tradition of under-educated, text-n-twitter-happy youth who don't remember how to spell and speak 733t for the purposes of being cool.
This OP might be a native English speaker. Just not an English writer.
October 13, 2010 at 12:42 pm
I wasn't forgetting 733t, Brandie. This just didn't read like it to me.
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October 13, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Trey Staker (10/13/2010)
Shawn Melton (10/13/2010)
How about this one as a response.:-)Very appropriate response from Gail...I might steal that one sometime. "Measure don't assume" Love it.
It would have tempted me to emulate Celko; Gail is very gentle, perhaps too gentle.
Tom
October 13, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Tom.Thomson (10/13/2010)
Trey Staker (10/13/2010)
Shawn Melton (10/13/2010)
How about this one as a response.:-)Very appropriate response from Gail...I might steal that one sometime. "Measure don't assume" Love it.
It would have tempted me to emulate Celko; Gail is very gentle, perhaps too gentle.
Gail? Our Gail? Gentle? With those blades she plays around with? :w00t:
Wayne
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
Author - SQL Server T-SQL Recipes
October 13, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Brandie Tarvin (10/13/2010)
Grant Fritchey (10/13/2010)
I only agreed to write the book so I could say I was right about everything.Grant, Dude!
I didn't know you were a science fiction author. @=)
I'll have to show you my screenplays sometime... or not...
But seriously, I don't write fiction. I rewrite the Books Online.
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October 13, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Grant Fritchey (10/13/2010)
Stefan Krzywicki (10/13/2010)
Alvin Ramard (10/13/2010)
Celko strikes again.What an ***.
Can we just respond to all his posts with "Just because someone wrote a book doesn't mean they're right"?
Whoa! Wait a minute. It doesn't? I only agreed to write the book so I could say I was right about everything. Man, way to be a downer.
Sorry! Maybe if you include a claimer (opposite of a disclaimer, I suppose) in the preface?
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October 13, 2010 at 12:56 pm
The Dixie Flatline (10/13/2010)
Does this bug anyone else, or should I go back to taking my chill pills?
Go back to the chill pills.
People with a poor grasp of English often write like that, they don't remember all the correct spellings (or are trying to spell something they have heard not seen) and don't want to use a dictionary for every word they write; if when learning they have scribbled notes, "dunno" (a "word" which any competent teacher will teach them) could easily be misread as "duuno" (and I know exactly how that is then likely to be pronounced by some Indians, from experience). It's a stage of learning that everyone goes through if they are learning to use a language, rather than just to pass school exams in it.
Tom
October 13, 2010 at 12:57 pm
I would say that Gail is professional, and controls herself even when her knuckles are growing white from gripping the scabbard.
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Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. -- Friedrich Schiller
Stop, children, what's that sound? Everybody look what's going down. -- Stephen Stills
October 13, 2010 at 1:00 pm
The Dixie Flatline (10/13/2010)
I duuno how ,pls any1 explane
Gail, this is a quote from that link. There is just something I always find curious about posts like these. If English isn't the OP's first language, then how do they come up with words like "duunno" for "don't know" or "explane" for "explain"? (I'll let "pls" and "any 1" go by because shortwords in are becoming universal thanks to texting.)
Not all posts from OPS for whom English is a second language are like this. Even babblefish could do better. To me, the post seems as if the OP is doing a parody of someone speaking English poorly. My spoken French is atrocious, but I wouldn't post to a French forum writing "Moan sewer, parlay vooze Awnglaze?"
Does this bug anyone else, or should I go back to taking my chill pills?
Oh, it bugs the hell out of me. I wouldn't presume to try to answer the question once I deciphered it because I wouldn't believe they could understand the explanation. It is so vague and unprofessional it doesn't deserve a response.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
October 13, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Brandie Tarvin (10/13/2010)
The Dixie Flatline (10/13/2010)
I duuno how ,pls any1 explane
There is just something I always find curious about posts like these. If English isn't the OP's first language, then how do they come up with words like "duunno" for "don't know" or "explane" for "explain"?
You're forgetting the tradition of under-educated, text-n-twitter-happy youth who don't remember how to spell and speak 733t for the purposes of being cool.
This OP might be a native English speaker. Just not an English writer.
I can speak 733t or l33t (depending on dialect 🙂 ), but when I'm asking for professional assistance? Why in the world would someone think that's a good idea. And the attitude the OP takes on that thread is unbelievable.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
October 13, 2010 at 1:04 pm
Tom.Thomson (10/13/2010)
The Dixie Flatline (10/13/2010)
Does this bug anyone else, or should I go back to taking my chill pills?Go back to the chill pills.
People with a poor grasp of English often write like that, they don't remember all the correct spellings (or are trying to spell something they have heard not seen) and don't want to use a dictionary for every word they write; if when learning they have scribbled notes, "dunno" (a "word" which any competent teacher will teach them) could easily be misread as "duuno" (and I know exactly how that is then likely to be pronounced by some Indians, from experience). It's a stage of learning that everyone goes through if they are learning to use a language, rather than just to pass school exams in it.
You're probably right, Tom. I'm completely sympathetic with the problems faced by non-English speakers in this arena. I'd be doomed if all the forums and documentation for SQL were in a language other than English. I just know that if I was in need of help I would make every effort to communicate as clearly as possible. Of course, if I were asking for help I wouldn't be as arrogant as some OPs are either.
Edited to add: Just read your post Stefan. We are in synch.
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October 13, 2010 at 1:09 pm
The Dixie Flatline (10/13/2010)
Tom.Thomson (10/13/2010)
The Dixie Flatline (10/13/2010)
Does this bug anyone else, or should I go back to taking my chill pills?Go back to the chill pills.
People with a poor grasp of English often write like that, they don't remember all the correct spellings (or are trying to spell something they have heard not seen) and don't want to use a dictionary for every word they write; if when learning they have scribbled notes, "dunno" (a "word" which any competent teacher will teach them) could easily be misread as "duuno" (and I know exactly how that is then likely to be pronounced by some Indians, from experience). It's a stage of learning that everyone goes through if they are learning to use a language, rather than just to pass school exams in it.
You're probably right, Tom. I'm completely sympathetic with the problems faced by non-English speakers in this arena. I'd be doomed if all the forums and documentation for SQL were in a language other than English. I just know that if I was in need of help I would make every effort to communicate as clearly as possible. Of course, if I were asking for help I wouldn't be as arrogant as some OPs are either.
Edited to add: Just read your post Stefan. We are in synch.
If it were just bad spelling or misuse of words, that'd be one thing. When used like it is here, the casual language and spelling simply amplifies the sloppy attitude of the post. Little to no details, very broad request, demands for responses RIGHT NOW all scream incompetence and general ignorance. A "do my homework for me" kind of attitude that I cannot abide.
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When you encounter a problem, if the solution isn't readily evident go back to the start and check your assumptions.
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It’s unpleasantly like being drunk.
What’s so unpleasant about being drunk?
You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams
October 13, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Stefan Krzywicki (10/13/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (10/13/2010)
The Dixie Flatline (10/13/2010)
I duuno how ,pls any1 explane
There is just something I always find curious about posts like these. If English isn't the OP's first language, then how do they come up with words like "duunno" for "don't know" or "explane" for "explain"?
You're forgetting the tradition of under-educated, text-n-twitter-happy youth who don't remember how to spell and speak 733t for the purposes of being cool.
This OP might be a native English speaker. Just not an English writer.
I can speak 733t or l33t (depending on dialect 🙂 ), but when I'm asking for professional assistance? Why in the world would someone think that's a good idea. And the attitude the OP takes on that thread is unbelievable.
Whenever I see 'plz', it makes me think of lolcats. So, offered for your amusement:
October 13, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Change of topic for a second.
Has anyone here tried reading a pdf format ebook on a Kindle3? I'm thinking about getting a Kindle and I'm just wondering how readable my pdf ebooks will be.
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October 13, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Alvin Ramard (10/13/2010)
Change of topic for a second.Has anyone here tried reading a pdf format ebook on a Kindle3? I'm thinking about getting a Kindle and I'm just wondering how readable my pdf ebooks will be.
I have a Kindle2 and I'm able to read PDFs okay. The print is a bit small on one of them though, don't know if that's how the PDF is (which it might be but I haven't opened it up on a computer to see) or if there's a setting I can adjust to make the print a bit bigger. It might depend on the original PDF as the Kindle might have some scaling issues. I was very glad when the Kindle2 became able to open PDFs. Just needs to improve its handling of pictures. But that's probably in a later Kindle than the one I have.
It probably in the specifications somewhere, but probaby, as long as the PDF is compatible with a certain PDF version, it's probably okay. I would be willing to bet the Kindle will whimper and complain if you ask it to open up a fancy PDF with fields and all that new stuff you can put into them with the latest version of Acrobat Profession.
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