September 30, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Kit G (9/30/2010)
WayneS (9/30/2010)
Steve Jones - Editor (9/30/2010)
You can pay at the door. I'll have Grant standing there intimidating people into giving up $30 or a ticket :-P:w00t:If he's in his kilt you might have people running away from it! :w00t:
Hey! Kilts are sexy! (But you do need the socks that are part of the ensemble.)
Heh... I've seen Grant and Steve in a kilt. The kilt tried it's damdest to be sexy but Grant and Steve's knees just made that impossible. π
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
September 30, 2010 at 9:01 pm
Tom.Thomson (9/30/2010)
Jeff Moden (9/29/2010)
Heh... nah... there are other places other than Alaska where such a thing occurs. πEast side of Michigan - anywhere between Detroit and Port Huron? That's the only one my recollection of time-wasting trivia quizzes 45 years ago calls up, except that the west side of Point Roberts WA fits the bill too, but if that had been it you would surely have mentioned Canada as next country to the West as well as North, South and East.
Correct.... but you knew that's where I was from. π
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
September 30, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Kit G (9/30/2010)
WayneS (9/30/2010)
Steve Jones - Editor (9/30/2010)
You can pay at the door. I'll have Grant standing there intimidating people into giving up $30 or a ticket :-P:w00t:If he's in his kilt you might have people running away from it! :w00t:
Hey! Kilts are sexy! (But you do need the socks that are part of the ensemble.)
Ok, Kit... you brought it up. Why do women think that kilts on men is sexy?
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
October 1, 2010 at 2:22 am
CirquedeSQLeil (9/30/2010)
GilaMonster (9/30/2010)
The problem is what he's mapping out in the project plan is actual elapsed time, not time spent on his project. Since neither developer is full time (both consultants) and both have other project commitments, that cause a slight problem.Which is why I'm debugging an SSIS package at 11pm.
Fun - want some help?
Thanks, but there's nothing that you can really help with. There's realms of confidentiality docs that I had to sign for this.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
October 1, 2010 at 2:23 am
Craig Farrell (9/30/2010)
*blink*blink*... Wow. Makes me never want to buy one of those books of his.http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic994925-392-1.aspx
It's just an opinion but "Please stop programming until you have read at least one book on RDBMS" followed by a list of books about RDBMS is advertising, right?
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October 1, 2010 at 2:24 am
Craig Farrell (9/30/2010)
GilaMonster (9/30/2010)
What's Sanctuary?Fun Monsters and Mayhem Sci Fi TV show set in modern day.
Hmmm... Must see if I can track that down locally.
Gail Shaw
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server, MVP, M.Sc (Comp Sci)
SQL In The Wild: Discussions on DB performance with occasional diversions into recoverability
October 1, 2010 at 2:28 am
CirquedeSQLeil (9/30/2010)
Grant Fritchey (9/30/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (9/30/2010)
WayneS (9/30/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (9/30/2010)
GilaMonster (9/30/2010)
The problem is what he's mapping out in the project plan is actual elapsed time, not time spent on his project. Since neither developer is full time (both consultants) and both have other project commitments, that cause a slight problem.Which is why I'm debugging an SSIS package at 11pm.
Fun - want some help?
Just how much spare time do you have Jason? π
It depends?
Come on over to my house. I need wood split.
That sounds fun too. Do i get to use dynamite?
Call in John Rowan π
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October 1, 2010 at 5:12 am
WayneS (9/29/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (9/29/2010)
Or make him do documentation.Brandie, I never realized that you hated fellow humans so much... :w00t:
HA!
October 1, 2010 at 5:14 am
GilaMonster (9/29/2010)
Kit G (9/29/2010)
Jack Corbett (9/29/2010)
Why assume that this person is a male?:-PBecause a woman couldn't possibly be wrong and therefore whatever she came up with would work and wouldn't be considered "Maverick". π It's guys that mess things up...
π I was considering saying just about the same thing.
Rule #1: The female is always right.
Rule #2: Even when she's wrong, the female is always right.
Rule #3: When in doubt, refer to Rule #1.
Given that Jack has a family, you'd think he'd have figured this out by now. @=)
October 1, 2010 at 5:25 am
GilaMonster (10/1/2010)
Craig Farrell (9/30/2010)
GilaMonster (9/30/2010)
What's Sanctuary?Fun Monsters and Mayhem Sci Fi TV show set in modern day.
Hmmm... Must see if I can track that down locally.
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October 1, 2010 at 5:26 am
Brandie Tarvin (10/1/2010)
GilaMonster (9/29/2010)
Kit G (9/29/2010)
Jack Corbett (9/29/2010)
Why assume that this person is a male?:-PBecause a woman couldn't possibly be wrong and therefore whatever she came up with would work and wouldn't be considered "Maverick". π It's guys that mess things up...
π I was considering saying just about the same thing.
Rule #1: The female is always right.
Rule #2: Even when she's wrong, the female is always right.
Rule #3: When in doubt, refer to Rule #1.
Given that Jack has a family, you'd think he'd have figured this out by now. @=)
Hah try it this way round: whoever has the lowest libido always makes up the rules!
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October 1, 2010 at 5:28 am
Roy Ernest (9/30/2010)
Damn... That is arrogant and insulting. He should not be talking like this. Even if he knows it all.
The problem is that he doesn't know it all. He's made some comments in his posts that are just plain stupid and Year One SQL rookie.
If he didn't keep making comments that insulted the OP, it wouldn't be so bad. But he always has to twist his words so that he's slamming people for asking questions.
October 1, 2010 at 5:31 am
Craig Farrell (9/30/2010)
jcrawf02 (9/30/2010)
I'm bored, can we talk about something else?New season of Sanctuary looks good...
Has it started yet? I'm still stuck in the Indian musical for last season's finale. I really want to see how things pan out. Of course, now we've got Will practically immortal so he can hook up with Magnus, if those two ever get their act together...
October 1, 2010 at 6:12 am
Jeff Moden (9/30/2010)
Jack Corbett (9/30/2010)
Jeff Moden (9/30/2010)
Jack Corbett (9/30/2010)
Update on the "maverick". Just had discussion with my boss about it. I've been asked to write up an email about what has been going on to "document" issues.Heh... sorry for what I'm about to say but that's a load of freakin' hooie on the part of a boss that poops through feathers. [font="Arial Black"]He [/font]should write up what you guys met about. No wonder you have a maverick in the chicken coop... he's riding a chicken boss.
My post comes off a little wrong I think. My boss is non-technical and doesn't really understand the details I'm trying to communicate so putting them in writing is the best way to communicate them. I have a pretty good relationship with the boss and my organization is different from anywhere you've worked so we are experiencing some major growing pains from being run as a "family" to being run as a business while still maintaining a family-friendly culture.
I absolutely took it the wrong way. Sorry, Jack. Being a non-technical boss on this type of problem does make it a bit smarter on his part to ask for some help in documenting the incident.
Since I took that wrong, lemme ask you is the maverick right or wrong? Sometimes it takes a maverick to shake up the status quo. In previous jobs, I was the one who was the maverick because I wanted to add document headers to all stored procedures, views, and functions.
No worries.
The issue isn't whether the maverick is right or wrong, it's that the maverick has circumvented processes put in place and that has caused issues. It's one thing to question practices and processes and suggest changes for the better, it's another to do your own thing and break code, which someone has to spend time cleaning up.
I'm a maverick at my office if you define maverick as an agent for change, but I do follow established practices and procedures until I'm able to convince people that they need to be changed.
Jack Corbett
Consultant - Straight Path Solutions
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October 1, 2010 at 7:12 am
Jeff Moden (9/29/2010)
Nope... it's usually because some manager made a promise in a 60 second elevator ride or over drinks with the boss. A lot of times an "I'll see what I can do" is interpreted as a promise.
Way back when the world was young, someone wrote
Real Programmers have no use for managers.
Managers are a necessary evil. They exist only to deal with
personnel bozos, bean counters, senior planners, and other
mental defectives.
Tom
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