Are the posted questions getting worse?

  • WayneS (9/27/2010)


    CirquedeSQLeil (9/27/2010)


    Sometimes we learn quite a bit through our articles and our blogs that we would not have learned otherwise.

    So true. In fact, the last article that I wrote was because I knew I didn't understand the window functions that well, and there's nothing like writing an article to get you to research and understand it. I think if I hadn't done that, I still wouldn't have the understanding that I wanted.

    Heck yes. Most of my posts are just me trying to figure stuff out and then writing it up. I'm still amazed people read them at all.

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  • Stefan Krzywicki (9/27/2010)

    Heh, part of me has been terrified that people here will find the blog and immediately think I'm an idiot. Of course, as I stated above part of the reason for the blog is so I can learn as well, so that's a ridiculous reaction, but it is there nonetheless.

    The blog is at sqlserver.thoughtstream.com and I still have a lot of cosmetic work to do on it. I've started 6 blogs on various topics, so I won't be posting on most of them every day and I have a lot of work to do on the site: a main page linking to the blogs, images on the various blogs, better names for some of them (like the SQL Server one), etc...

    Other than posting the information I want to reference later, I'm trying to target people who aren't experts. I'm not intending to have a blog like some I've seen where I just rephrase Books Online, I want to make suggestions for how to approach SQL Server, point out some useful tools and warn about some roadblocks.

    I just hope I don't fall into the idiots category Jeff was talking about. I don't think I do, but then most idiots don't : -)

    I'm getting the infamous 404 error when I click your link. Your link is incorrect as posted. As far as looking like an idiot, if you're not regurgitating BOL or plagiarizing but coming up with valuable information in easy to understand verbiage, you'll be just fine. Continue doing what your doing. You'll get some gentle critiquing here if/when warranted. Be proud, you're doing more than a lot of us!!

    -- You can't be late until you show up.

  • tosscrosby (9/27/2010)


    Stefan Krzywicki (9/27/2010)

    Heh, part of me has been terrified that people here will find the blog and immediately think I'm an idiot. Of course, as I stated above part of the reason for the blog is so I can learn as well, so that's a ridiculous reaction, but it is there nonetheless.

    The blog is at sqlserver.thoughtstream.com and I still have a lot of cosmetic work to do on it. I've started 6 blogs on various topics, so I won't be posting on most of them every day and I have a lot of work to do on the site: a main page linking to the blogs, images on the various blogs, better names for some of them (like the SQL Server one), etc...

    Other than posting the information I want to reference later, I'm trying to target people who aren't experts. I'm not intending to have a blog like some I've seen where I just rephrase Books Online, I want to make suggestions for how to approach SQL Server, point out some useful tools and warn about some roadblocks.

    I just hope I don't fall into the idiots category Jeff was talking about. I don't think I do, but then most idiots don't : -)

    I'm getting the infamous 404 error when I click your link. Your link is incorrect as posted. As far as looking like an idiot, if you're not regurgitating BOL or plagiarizing but coming up with valuable information in easy to understand verbiage, you'll be just fine. Continue doing what your doing. You'll get some gentle critiquing here if/when warranted. Be proud, you're doing more than a lot of us!!

    Yep, noticed that and fixed it already. Thanks! Now you can tell me if I fixed it correctly. : -)

    The word "valuable" is part of what I'm worried about. : -)

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  • tosscrosby (9/27/2010)


    Stefan Krzywicki (9/27/2010)

    Heh, part of me has been terrified that people here will find the blog and immediately think I'm an idiot. Of course, as I stated above part of the reason for the blog is so I can learn as well, so that's a ridiculous reaction, but it is there nonetheless.

    The blog is at and I still have a lot of cosmetic work to do on it. I've started 6 blogs on various topics, so I won't be posting on most of them every day and I have a lot of work to do on the site: a main page linking to the blogs, images on the various blogs, better names for some of them (like the SQL Server one), etc...

    Other than posting the information I want to reference later, I'm trying to target people who aren't experts. I'm not intending to have a blog like some I've seen where I just rephrase Books Online, I want to make suggestions for how to approach SQL Server, point out some useful tools and warn about some roadblocks.

    I just hope I don't fall into the idiots category Jeff was talking about. I don't think I do, but then most idiots don't : -)

    As far as looking like an idiot, if you're not regurgitating BOL or plagiarizing but coming up with valuable information in easy to understand verbiage, you'll be just fine. Continue doing what your doing. You'll get some gentle critiquing here if/when warranted. Be proud, you're doing more than a lot of us!!

    It is indeed fixed. I like what I see so far!

    -- You can't be late until you show up.

  • tosscrosby (9/27/2010)


    tosscrosby (9/27/2010)


    Stefan Krzywicki (9/27/2010)

    Heh, part of me has been terrified that people here will find the blog and immediately think I'm an idiot. Of course, as I stated above part of the reason for the blog is so I can learn as well, so that's a ridiculous reaction, but it is there nonetheless.

    The blog is at and I still have a lot of cosmetic work to do on it. I've started 6 blogs on various topics, so I won't be posting on most of them every day and I have a lot of work to do on the site: a main page linking to the blogs, images on the various blogs, better names for some of them (like the SQL Server one), etc...

    Other than posting the information I want to reference later, I'm trying to target people who aren't experts. I'm not intending to have a blog like some I've seen where I just rephrase Books Online, I want to make suggestions for how to approach SQL Server, point out some useful tools and warn about some roadblocks.

    I just hope I don't fall into the idiots category Jeff was talking about. I don't think I do, but then most idiots don't : -)

    As far as looking like an idiot, if you're not regurgitating BOL or plagiarizing but coming up with valuable information in easy to understand verbiage, you'll be just fine. Continue doing what your doing. You'll get some gentle critiquing here if/when warranted. Be proud, you're doing more than a lot of us!!

    It is indeed fixed. I like what I see so far!

    Thanks, I appreciate it.

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    You ask a glass of water. -- Douglas Adams

  • Stefan Krzywicki (9/27/2010)


    CirquedeSQLeil (9/27/2010)


    Stefan Krzywicki (9/27/2010)


    Steve Jones - Editor (9/27/2010)


    Alvin Ramard (9/27/2010)


    Jeff Moden (9/26/2010)


    ... there are a whole lot of people that should'na be allowed near a computer never mind a database.

    Seen too many that shouldn't do either but do both. Oh well, hopefully that means job security for some of us.

    The problem with this is that people are on a learning curve. So should they not blog until they know everything? Do we remove Jeff's Running Total article when Windowing functions become prevalent in SQL Server?

    There are mistakes, and places where we easily see that someone should know better, but I'd also argue there are tons of articles that are debatable, where you could make an argument that some of the information makes sense to put out there for debate, and discussion, as well as use in some domains.

    I've started a SQL Server and programming blog and I certainly don't know everything. I'm posting things I do know, or at least think I know, and am hoping that if I'm wrong or if people have ways they think are better, I can have a discussion and make adjustments. I state that right in the very first post. I'm doing it partly to let others know things I've found, partly to log information I know I'll want to reference later and partly to learn.

    what is your blog address?

    Heh, part of me has been terrified that people here will find the blog and immediately think I'm an idiot. Of course, as I stated above part of the reason for the blog is so I can learn as well, so that's a ridiculous reaction, but it is there nonetheless.

    The blog is at sqlserver.thoughtstream.com and I still have a lot of cosmetic work to do on it. I've started 6 blogs on various topics, so I won't be posting on most of them every day and I have a lot of work to do on the site: a main page linking to the blogs, images on the various blogs, better names for some of them (like the SQL Server one), etc...

    Other than posting the information I want to reference later, I'm trying to target people who aren't experts. I'm not intending to have a blog like some I've seen where I just rephrase Books Online, I want to make suggestions for how to approach SQL Server, point out some useful tools and warn about some roadblocks.

    I just hope I don't fall into the idiots category Jeff was talking about. I don't think I do, but then most idiots don't : -)

    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed, can only learn from someone who moved AWAY from Columbus ๐Ÿ˜€

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  • jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed

    Okay, stupid question time. How do you subscribe to a blog feed? Are any special programs required?

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  • WayneS (9/27/2010)


    jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed

    Okay, stupid question time. How do you subscribe to a blog feed? Are any special programs required?

    Since you said stupid question time, here's one way to do it:

    EXEC DBCC TimeWarp @param126 = '[blog URL]', @param127 = 'Subscribe' ๐Ÿ˜€



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  • jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    Stefan Krzywicki (9/27/2010)


    CirquedeSQLeil (9/27/2010)


    Stefan Krzywicki (9/27/2010)


    Steve Jones - Editor (9/27/2010)


    Alvin Ramard (9/27/2010)


    Jeff Moden (9/26/2010)


    ... there are a whole lot of people that should'na be allowed near a computer never mind a database.

    Seen too many that shouldn't do either but do both. Oh well, hopefully that means job security for some of us.

    The problem with this is that people are on a learning curve. So should they not blog until they know everything? Do we remove Jeff's Running Total article when Windowing functions become prevalent in SQL Server?

    There are mistakes, and places where we easily see that someone should know better, but I'd also argue there are tons of articles that are debatable, where you could make an argument that some of the information makes sense to put out there for debate, and discussion, as well as use in some domains.

    I've started a SQL Server and programming blog and I certainly don't know everything. I'm posting things I do know, or at least think I know, and am hoping that if I'm wrong or if people have ways they think are better, I can have a discussion and make adjustments. I state that right in the very first post. I'm doing it partly to let others know things I've found, partly to log information I know I'll want to reference later and partly to learn.

    what is your blog address?

    Heh, part of me has been terrified that people here will find the blog and immediately think I'm an idiot. Of course, as I stated above part of the reason for the blog is so I can learn as well, so that's a ridiculous reaction, but it is there nonetheless.

    The blog is at sqlserver.thoughtstream.com and I still have a lot of cosmetic work to do on it. I've started 6 blogs on various topics, so I won't be posting on most of them every day and I have a lot of work to do on the site: a main page linking to the blogs, images on the various blogs, better names for some of them (like the SQL Server one), etc...

    Other than posting the information I want to reference later, I'm trying to target people who aren't experts. I'm not intending to have a blog like some I've seen where I just rephrase Books Online, I want to make suggestions for how to approach SQL Server, point out some useful tools and warn about some roadblocks.

    I just hope I don't fall into the idiots category Jeff was talking about. I don't think I do, but then most idiots don't : -)

    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed, can only learn from someone who moved AWAY from Columbus ๐Ÿ˜€

    LOL, thanks! I'll try to live up to that. : -)

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  • Alvin Ramard (9/27/2010)


    WayneS (9/27/2010)


    jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed

    Okay, stupid question time. How do you subscribe to a blog feed? Are any special programs required?

    Since you said stupid question time, here's one way to do it:

    EXEC DBCC TimeWarp @param126 = '[blog URL]', @param127 = 'Subscribe' ๐Ÿ˜€

    Go to: http://sqlserver.thoughtstream.com/?feed=rss2 and click on the "Subscribe to this feed" link.

    Before you do that, got and RSS Feed client?



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  • WayneS (9/27/2010)


    jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed

    Okay, stupid question time. How do you subscribe to a blog feed? Are any special programs required?

    Many have an RSS feed. Some have setup a feedburner feed, others have the default feed. WordPress blogs (as Stefans is) have a default RSS feed. It's just a matter of finding out what the feed url is and then reading it through your app of choice (mygoogle for example).

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  • WayneS (9/27/2010)


    jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed

    Okay, stupid question time. How do you subscribe to a blog feed? Are any special programs required?

    On the right, there's a link "Entries RSS". Click that and then click "subscribe". It is a feature built into WordPress.

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    Whatโ€™s so unpleasant about being drunk?
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  • Alvin Ramard (9/27/2010)


    WayneS (9/27/2010)


    jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed

    Okay, stupid question time. How do you subscribe to a blog feed? Are any special programs required?

    Since you said stupid question time, here's one way to do it:

    EXEC DBCC TimeWarp @param126 = '[blog URL]', @param127 = 'Subscribe' ๐Ÿ˜€

    Wayne, tell Alvin you want your money back for that answer.

    There's an RSS icon in the upper right of IE7/8, orangey colored square, click the drop-down arrow, and click on the feed you want. It'll come up, click on Subscribe To This Feed under the feed name, and it'll automatically be in your Favorites (click on the Feeds tab rather than the Favorites tab).

    Also, even better, if you're using Outlook, it automatically shows up in your mailbox under RSS Feeds.

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    Tally Table:What it is and how it replaces a loop[/url]

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  • CirquedeSQLeil (9/27/2010)


    Put something out there, debate it and if you are wrong - take your lumps and make a correction.

    That's how I learned SQL. I tried to help out on the forums, got stuff wrong, and got corrected by people who could explain it well enough for me to understand.

    And that method is still working today. @=)

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  • jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    Alvin Ramard (9/27/2010)


    WayneS (9/27/2010)


    jcrawf02 (9/27/2010)


    I of course immediately subscribed to your feed

    Okay, stupid question time. How do you subscribe to a blog feed? Are any special programs required?

    Since you said stupid question time, here's one way to do it:

    EXEC DBCC TimeWarp @param126 = '[blog URL]', @param127 = 'Subscribe' ๐Ÿ˜€

    Wayne, tell Alvin you want your money back for that answer.

    There's an RSS icon in the upper right of IE7/8, orangey colored square, click the drop-down arrow, and click on the feed you want. It'll come up, click on Subscribe To This Feed under the feed name, and it'll automatically be in your Favorites (click on the Feeds tab rather than the Favorites tab).

    Also, even better, if you're using Outlook, it automatically shows up in your mailbox under RSS Feeds.

    Stefan,

    With wordpress, there are also some Widgets that could be installed on the blog to make the subscribe to feed more visible. They would also help give you insight into how many people just read the feed as opposed to visiting your site.

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