September 1, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Brandie Tarvin (9/1/2010)
Grant's comment leads me to this question: What do the rest of you do if you get a call, or linked in mail, but aren't looking for a job?I do tend to ignore the emails, but return the calls and say "No, thanks." The only time I'll respond to email is if it's someone I know. But is that a good policy? Would it be better to send an email response?
If it is someone I know, I email (or call back) and let them know how long my current contract is. Not every time, but most times.
If it is someone I don't know and they look reputable, I email them back with a copy of my current resume and tell them I'll be in contact next time I'm looking. I also tell them when my current assignment is up.
By "reputable" I mean that they have read what I have posted on-line. I state that I'm not willing to relocate or travel, so I don't respond to the ones telling me about jobs in MN, CA, KS, etc... I often put them on my "do not use" list if I get frequent emails about jobs all over the place. They're spammers.
If they don't mention rate (few do in the initial email) and the job sounds interesting, I email back asking for the rate and duration of the contract. If they don't respond or offer an insultingly low rate (under 70% of my current rate), I put them on my "do not use" list.
The last thing that gets people on the "do not use" list is when they start contacting me with all kinds of jobs that have skill sets nowhere on my resume. If they're contacting me about Oracle, PHP, UNIX and COBOL, I tell them to jump in a lake.
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September 1, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Brandie Tarvin (9/1/2010)
Grant's comment leads me to this question: What do the rest of you do if you get a call, or linked in mail, but aren't looking for a job?I do tend to ignore the emails, but return the calls and say "No, thanks." The only time I'll respond to email is if it's someone I know. But is that a good policy? Would it be better to send an email response?
If it's a shotgun email, and this one sure looked like one, no, I generally don't respond. Or, if I do, I'll want to hear a lot more details on the attractive position they're offering. If that position is suddenly filled or not the topic of the conversation... we're done. They're just fishing for resume's.
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September 1, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Brandie Tarvin (9/1/2010)
Grant's comment leads me to this question: What do the rest of you do if you get a call, or linked in mail, but aren't looking for a job?I do tend to ignore the emails, but return the calls and say "No, thanks." The only time I'll respond to email is if it's someone I know. But is that a good policy? Would it be better to send an email response?
If the person did at least some homework and the job looks like it is within my skillset - then I will usually give them a courtesy reply. I figure I'll establish some lines for just in case.
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September 1, 2010 at 1:41 pm
When are these recruiters going to contact me? 🙁 No one ever contacts me... My LinkedIn is already beefed up. Cant beef it up anymore. 😀
-Roy
September 1, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Brandie Tarvin (9/1/2010)
Grant's comment leads me to this question: What do the rest of you do if you get a call, or linked in mail, but aren't looking for a job?I do tend to ignore the emails, but return the calls and say "No, thanks." The only time I'll respond to email is if it's someone I know. But is that a good policy? Would it be better to send an email response?
As most have said, I always respond when it is someone I know and I usually forward it on if I know anyone who is looking. If it is a shotgun email I won't respond.
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September 1, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Roy Ernest (9/1/2010)
When are these recruiters going to contact me? 🙁 No one ever contacts me... My LinkedIn is already beefed up. Cant beef it up anymore. 😀
Too much bull, oops, I meant beef, and not enough pork chops? 😀
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September 1, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Roy Ernest (9/1/2010)
When are these recruiters going to contact me? 🙁 No one ever contacts me... My LinkedIn is already beefed up. Cant beef it up anymore. 😀
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September 1, 2010 at 1:58 pm
I don't have headhunters contacting me either. Guess I need to porkchop up my LinkedIn profile as well. Not that I am necessarily looking for another position having just started a new job, but I feel a bit left out here.
As for responding, if it looks like they have done some research and actually think I'd be a good fit for a possible position, I'll respond. If it's just a shotgun email, most likely not.
September 1, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Alvin Ramard (9/1/2010)
Roy Ernest (9/1/2010)
When are these recruiters going to contact me? 🙁 No one ever contacts me... My LinkedIn is already beefed up. Cant beef it up anymore. 😀Too much bull, oops, I meant beef, and not enough pork chops? 😀
I think I need to cut down on the bull and add more Pork chops. Balance it a bit.. 😀
-Roy
September 1, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Grant Fritchey (9/1/2010)
GSquared (9/1/2010)
Connections via SSC and LinkedIn have got my phone ringing off the hook (well, the phone isn't old enough to do that literally, but you get the idea) from recruiters and HR people looking for a DBA. I've had more activity since Jack and Andy connected me to a few people than I've had in the prior month. Thanks guys!By the way, I was contacted about a position in Kansas City that you'd be qualified for. I haven't responded because I'm not moving to KC and I don't know anyone in that area.
I actually just got off an hour-long phone call on that one.
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September 1, 2010 at 2:26 pm
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Grant Fritchey (9/1/2010)
If your contact email looked like mine, it was simultaneously a**-kissing and completely generic. The guy waxed prolific about how great I am and how qualified without ever mentioning any specific thing I've done that makes him think so.He posted in the forums here too, generic ad looking for a top-shot DBA. Mass advertising and hoping that he'll flatter someone enough for them to accept?
Hmmm... the stuff I got wasn't flattery. It was "are you a rock star of SQL?"
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September 1, 2010 at 2:30 pm
GSquared (9/1/2010)
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Grant Fritchey (9/1/2010)
If your contact email looked like mine, it was simultaneously a**-kissing and completely generic. The guy waxed prolific about how great I am and how qualified without ever mentioning any specific thing I've done that makes him think so.He posted in the forums here too, generic ad looking for a top-shot DBA. Mass advertising and hoping that he'll flatter someone enough for them to accept?
Hmmm... the stuff I got wasn't flattery. It was "are you a rock star of SQL?"
hmmmm, I thought @SQLRockstar was somebody else. 😛
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September 1, 2010 at 2:33 pm
GSquared (9/1/2010)
GilaMonster (9/1/2010)
Grant Fritchey (9/1/2010)
If your contact email looked like mine, it was simultaneously a**-kissing and completely generic. The guy waxed prolific about how great I am and how qualified without ever mentioning any specific thing I've done that makes him think so.He posted in the forums here too, generic ad looking for a top-shot DBA. Mass advertising and hoping that he'll flatter someone enough for them to accept?
Hmmm... the stuff I got wasn't flattery. It was "are you a rock star of SQL?"
Here is my answer to the question "are you a rock star of SQL?"
It depends, what is your definition of a SQL rock star?
September 1, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Here's an interesting one. This is the list of skills someone wants for their "DBA":
Must have advanced proficiency and extensive knowledge of web development and design technologies, and publishing , experience in designing web-based applications in PHP, ColdFusion and ASP.NET, expert level skills in Microsoft SQL Server, MySQL, Stored Procedure development, and Object Data Base Connections (ODBC) and DTS as well as experience defining and creating complex Web Services. Requires expert level skills in JavaScript, HTML and CSS, extensive understanding of XML and related technologies, plus expert level understanding of web protocols such as HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, and SMTP, SSL and encryption technologies as they relate to e-commerce. Requires extensive understanding of ColdFusion and SQL Server software installation procedures as well as expert level skills in database backup and recovery. Also requires use and detailed understanding of Streaming Video encoding applications and Players, particularly Windows Media Encoder/Player and Flash COM Server. Advanced skills in Macromedia development tools and standard desktop applications such as MS Office also required. Must be able to successfully handle multiple tasks/projects and have excellent technical writing skills (including requirements, specifications, status reports, flowcharts and project plans).
All I can say is, "ummmm...."
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September 1, 2010 at 2:48 pm
GSquared (9/1/2010)
Here's an interesting one. This is the list of skills someone wants for their "DBA":Must have advanced proficiency and extensive knowledge of web development and design technologies, and publishing , experience in designing web-based applications in PHP, ColdFusion and ASP.NET, expert level skills in Microsoft SQL Server, MySQL, Stored Procedure development, and Object Data Base Connections (ODBC) and DTS as well as experience defining and creating complex Web Services. Requires expert level skills in JavaScript, HTML and CSS, extensive understanding of XML and related technologies, plus expert level understanding of web protocols such as HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, and SMTP, SSL and encryption technologies as they relate to e-commerce. Requires extensive understanding of ColdFusion and SQL Server software installation procedures as well as expert level skills in database backup and recovery. Also requires use and detailed understanding of Streaming Video encoding applications and Players, particularly Windows Media Encoder/Player and Flash COM Server. Advanced skills in Macromedia development tools and standard desktop applications such as MS Office also required. Must be able to successfully handle multiple tasks/projects and have excellent technical writing skills (including requirements, specifications, status reports, flowcharts and project plans).
All I can say is, "ummmm...."
Ummm, all we really want is one person to do the job of three for no extra money what so ever, after all we are trying to SAVE money. 😉
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