August 26, 2010 at 9:03 am
Roy Ernest (8/25/2010)
Great Job Paul... Way to go. π Your blog is on fire.@jeff. I never set up the netmeeting. I am going to see how that can be done.
Roy,
Let me know if you need a hand with this. We can Skype if you have it. If your chapter doesn't have a Live Meeting account set up you need to contact Nancy Nasso at PASS HQ to get it setup and you need to do it now.
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August 26, 2010 at 10:16 am
Jack Corbett (8/26/2010)
Roy Ernest (8/25/2010)
Great Job Paul... Way to go. π Your blog is on fire.@jeff. I never set up the netmeeting. I am going to see how that can be done.
Roy,
Let me know if you need a hand with this. We can Skype if you have it. If your chapter doesn't have a Live Meeting account set up you need to contact Nancy Nasso at PASS HQ to get it setup and you need to do it now.
Thank you. I will get in touch with Nancy today itself.
-Roy
August 26, 2010 at 10:43 am
Douglas McDowell is supposed to be "escalating my issues" with the newly upgraded UGSS website. I've made it clear to him that as far as I'm concerned, the UGSS website is now unuseable. I encourage other group leaders to file complaints with both PASS and UGSS. INETA also would not be a bad idea.
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August 26, 2010 at 10:57 am
I am finally getting around to "Kelly's Heroes"
We'll see how the thread recommendations prove to be.
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August 26, 2010 at 11:04 am
Hello The Thread!
Sorry about disappearing so suddenly and completely a few months back. Let's just say life has been unusually "interesting" lately, and hope you guys can forgive the absence.
Now for the challenge of trying to catch back up on this thread and others!
- Gus "GSquared", RSVP, OODA, MAP, NMVP, FAQ, SAT, SQL, DNA, RNA, UOI, IOU, AM, PM, AD, BC, BCE, USA, UN, CF, ROFL, LOL, ETC
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August 26, 2010 at 11:09 am
Welcome back. Nothing much happening, I think we've had
- poor questions posted
- rugby
- live meeting for user groups
- user asking how to design bank ERP software
- PASS
- someone asking for help with homework
August 26, 2010 at 11:12 am
Oh, and since I got rid of the beard, I've updated my picture. π
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August 26, 2010 at 11:25 am
GSquared (8/26/2010)
Oh, and since I got rid of the beard, I've updated my picture. π
You look more attractive that way π
Oh, and welcome back
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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August 26, 2010 at 11:26 am
So here is my question of the day
How do you convince somebody that archive data should not be changed?
Data integrity didn't work
Point in time visibility did not work
Reporting consistency did not work
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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August 26, 2010 at 11:30 am
Tell them that if it changes, Skynet will erase them?
-- Kit
August 26, 2010 at 11:30 am
CirquedeSQLeil (8/26/2010)
How do you convince somebody that archive data should not be changed?
Tell him/her that they're being audited.
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August 26, 2010 at 11:31 am
CirquedeSQLeil (8/26/2010)
How do you convince somebody that archive data should not be changed?Data integrity didn't work
Point in time visibility did not work
Reporting consistency did not work
Legal implications? It'd be a violation of just about every compliance law I can think of. When we used to get SOX audits, one of the things we had to 'prove' was that the audit data couldn't be changed.
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August 26, 2010 at 11:33 am
GSquared (8/26/2010)
Oh, and since I got rid of the beard, I've updated my picture. π
Gorgeous, G. Simply gorgeous! @=)
August 26, 2010 at 11:33 am
CirquedeSQLeil (8/26/2010)
So here is my question of the dayHow do you convince somebody that archive data should not be changed?
Data integrity didn't work
Point in time visibility did not work
Reporting consistency did not work
What is their argument for changing it? Was the data wrong in the first place? I'd say if they have a really good argument or are intractable, set up a snapshot for them while explaining the legal implications of using the changed data. That way they get to have their changed data, but don't actually change the archived data, they just have a separate set with their "corrections".
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August 26, 2010 at 11:36 am
@Kit - Arnold is on his way
@ray and @Gail - nice angle. I should have thought of that. Sox and California privacy should be able to win that argument. I have a bit of hope.
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