August 16, 2010 at 7:38 am
Dave Ballantyne (8/16/2010)
Whats everyone's thoughts on the SSWUG newsletter ?In todays there is a summary of one of my blog posts. It doesn't specify that it is a free web resource and implies that you have to subscribe to get the content.
http://www.sswug.org/nlarchive.aspx?odate=08%2F16%2F2010
OK , so , hopefully , my article is not being plagiarized by SSWUG, i dont subscribe so dont know where the click will go to, but should web articles be used like this as ?
Aaron Bertrand had a blog post, http://sqlblog.com/blogs/aaron_bertrand/archive/2010/03/10/the-ethics-of-aggregating-other-peoples-content.aspx, about this and I have to say I agree with his feelings on this.
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August 16, 2010 at 7:49 am
Dave Ballantyne (8/16/2010)
Whats everyone's thoughts on the SSWUG newsletter ?In todays there is a summary of one of my blog posts. It doesn't specify that it is a free web resource and implies that you have to subscribe to get the content.
http://www.sswug.org/nlarchive.aspx?odate=08%2F16%2F2010
OK , so , hopefully , my article is not being plagiarized by SSWUG, i dont subscribe so dont know where the click will go to, but should web articles be used like this as ?
They're somewhat notorious for linking to you without really linking to you and charging people for the privilege of reading stuff that's free. I'm honestly not crazy about those guys. None of their practices are per se, wrong, but many of them are dubious in nature.
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August 16, 2010 at 7:50 am
Jeff Moden (8/16/2010)
Does anyone know what's up with the upcoming SQL Saturday in Minnesota? I see no speakers and no sessions. I've sent emails asking what's up and have gotten no responses either from the folks at Minnesota or the SQL Saturday main mail.
A little more info. Check also with Jason Strate, @stratesql, http://www.jasonstrate.com.
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August 16, 2010 at 7:53 am
I think SSWUG is shaky, ethically. It's not illegal, but it feels like a trick, or scam. I clicked through, got a page to "register" for free, to get to this and other articles. I declined to see where it went, but it isn't something I think it right. At least not for me.
You can complain, I suspect he'd stop checking your blog.
August 16, 2010 at 7:59 am
Jack Corbett (8/16/2010)
Let's just say I'm waiting to hear about the slate for the PASS Election before commenting...
Which will be when?
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August 16, 2010 at 8:00 am
I think the SQL Rally is designed to "try" some things out that don't happen at the Summit, and get more speakers there. Personally I'd like to have people submit as many as they want, and then have the community vote for a few weeks with the top xxx going to a committee. I might also let them vote on speakers as well, and let a committee decide who to pick and what.
We had a long talk on Saturday at SQLSaturday #28 in Baton Rouge about this. It's hard, and it's subjective, in how you pick the sessions (and people).
FWIW, Paul and Kim didn't submit a bunch of sessions. They each sent in one pre-con, one session, and they were picked. Since they do into each other's sessions, their pre-cons are split on separate days.
August 16, 2010 at 8:05 am
Steve Jones - Editor (8/16/2010)
I think the SQL Rally is designed to "try" some things out that don't happen at the Summit, and get more speakers there. Personally I'd like to have people submit as many as they want, and then have the community vote for a few weeks with the top xxx going to a committee. I might also let them vote on speakers as well, and let a committee decide who to pick and what.We had a long talk on Saturday at SQLSaturday #28 in Baton Rouge about this. It's hard, and it's subjective, in how you pick the sessions (and people).
FWIW, Paul and Kim didn't submit a bunch of sessions. They each sent in one pre-con, one session, and they were picked. Since they do into each other's sessions, their pre-cons are split on separate days.
Question on this - who should get to vote? Registered summiteers only? All members? Reason I ask is that I voted for the community choice sessions, but I'm not planning on going to Summit at the moment (trying for a free shot, of course). Sort of felt bad, but not really, since I'm an interested party, and I want to make the Summit something that I want to attend, even if I don't get to. Also, only a very small percentage of the membership seems to vote. Not sure how it'll pan out with this election, and maybe elections are different from voting on sessions, but last time we had a miserable turnout, so maybe 500 folks would be voting on the sessions attended by how many thousands?
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August 16, 2010 at 8:09 am
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Jack Corbett (8/16/2010)
Let's just say I'm waiting to hear about the slate for the PASS Election before commenting...Which will be when?
The candidates are supposed to hear today/tomorrow and the slate should be announced on Wednesday.
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August 16, 2010 at 8:11 am
First the Summit is typically around 1500 people that pay. Leave out volunteers, speakers, and that's about what the Summit is. Sometimes smaller. I suspect the Rally will be smaller, likely 200-500.
I would say that the whole PASS community, say anyone registered by a couple months before the Rally, gets to give an opinion. The reason is that I'd like to know what many people out there want to see. What is interesting to them. Then let a smaller committee that those ideas, that information, that spread of topics, and clean it up to a reasonable number.
As a PASS member, whether you hit the Summit or not, I'd like to see you vote.
August 16, 2010 at 8:18 am
jcrawf02 (8/16/2010)
Steve Jones - Editor (8/16/2010)
I think the SQL Rally is designed to "try" some things out that don't happen at the Summit, and get more speakers there. Personally I'd like to have people submit as many as they want, and then have the community vote for a few weeks with the top xxx going to a committee. I might also let them vote on speakers as well, and let a committee decide who to pick and what.We had a long talk on Saturday at SQLSaturday #28 in Baton Rouge about this. It's hard, and it's subjective, in how you pick the sessions (and people).
FWIW, Paul and Kim didn't submit a bunch of sessions. They each sent in one pre-con, one session, and they were picked. Since they do into each other's sessions, their pre-cons are split on separate days.
Question on this - who should get to vote? Registered summiteers only? All members? Reason I ask is that I voted for the community choice sessions, but I'm not planning on going to Summit at the moment (trying for a free shot, of course). Sort of felt bad, but not really, since I'm an interested party, and I want to make the Summit something that I want to attend, even if I don't get to. Also, only a very small percentage of the membership seems to vote. Not sure how it'll pan out with this election, and maybe elections are different from voting on sessions, but last time we had a miserable turnout, so maybe 500 folks would be voting on the sessions attended by how many thousands?
I think every PASS member should have the opportunity to vote. For the election this year you had to be a member by May sometime. PASS really should set a member date for voting and use that for all votes in a year. The issue with only letting registered Summmiteers vote is that the majority of registrations happen late, so you'd have very few voters available if that was the criteria.
For choosing sessions, I personally think that having a selection committee nominate the top N for each category and then allowing the community to pick is a good way to go vs. having the community pick the top N and a committee pick the actual sessions. I can live with either, and actually don't have an issue with the current process other than perhaps making a bit more open.
Another idea is to have a set group of topics, fairly broad, have the community vote on topics and then solicit sessions for those topics.
We are definitely trying to be different with SQLRally, but still trying to determine how different and, more importantly, WHY we should be different. To be different just to be different isn't really the best thing to go.
I'll be blogging about SQLRally speaker selection either this week or next. I'll try to cover our thoughts and the reasons why we want to be different than the Summit and SQLSaturday.
The great part about being involved is being able to initiate some change, but the tough part is that everyone else has their own ideas.
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August 16, 2010 at 8:27 am
Jack Corbett (8/16/2010)
For choosing sessions, I personally think that having a selection committee nominate the top N for each category and then allowing the community to pick is a good way to go vs. having the community pick the top N and a committee pick the actual sessions. I can live with either, and actually don't have an issue with the current process other than perhaps making a bit more open.
I'll disagree for this reason. I don't think the committee, or most of PASS, has a great idea of the pulse of the community. I'm not sure how popular BI may be v replication v CDC. Let the community clean up sessions first since the committees are just guessing. I think having them go last makes it a more educated guess and not a WAG.
August 16, 2010 at 8:28 am
August 16, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Steve Jones - Editor (8/16/2010)
I think the SQL Rally is designed to "try" some things out that don't happen at the Summit, and get more speakers there. Personally I'd like to have people submit as many as they want, and then have the community vote for a few weeks with the top xxx going to a committee. I might also let them vote on speakers as well, and let a committee decide who to pick and what.
Ok... I've absolutely missed the bubble here... what's the URL for SQLRally and are they still looking for speakers?
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August 16, 2010 at 9:05 pm
We had a discussion recently on how placement of criteria can affect queries and Paul and I both mentioned blogging on it. I started a blog on it and then realized that I had already written a post about it. You can find the post here, http://wiseman-wiseguy.blogspot.com/2009/09/on-vs-where.html
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August 16, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Jeff Moden (8/16/2010)
Steve Jones - Editor (8/16/2010)
I think the SQL Rally is designed to "try" some things out that don't happen at the Summit, and get more speakers there. Personally I'd like to have people submit as many as they want, and then have the community vote for a few weeks with the top xxx going to a committee. I might also let them vote on speakers as well, and let a committee decide who to pick and what.Ok... I've absolutely missed the bubble here... what's the URL for SQLRally and are they still looking for speakers?
Jeff,
There isn't a SQLRally website yet, nor has there been a call for speakers. Pretty much all we have so far is a name, a date (May 11-13, 2011), and a location (Orlando, FL). We are still working out the details. You can read more about the event on Andy Warren's blog (www.sqlandy.com), Kendal Van Dyke's blog (http://kendalvandyke.blogspot.com) and my blog (http://wiseman-wiseguy.blogspot.com).
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