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Brandie Tarvin SSC Guru Points: 173068 More actions · Answer 1

Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?

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Alvin Ramard SSC-Forever Points: 41190 More actions · Answer 2

Brandie Tarvin (8/9/2010)
Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?
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It depends on who says that. I think DBAs should know what it means but I would suspect that many developers do not know and I'm not sure there's any reason to expect they should know it.

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 3

mtillman-921105 (8/9/2010)
Steve Jones - Editor (8/9/2010)
So this is a virtual SQL Server community? Or are we the architects working behind the scenes?
Ahhh, my head hurts on Monday morning.
Steve, I suspect we're just in a dream, within a dream, within a dream... 🙂

That is the most likely scenario. IN one of those dreams we are certainly architects.

I just hate waking up from a dream to realize I am still dreaming:crying:

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ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 4

Brandie Tarvin (8/9/2010)
Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic961511-146-2.aspx#bm966015

It's a forestry expression.

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 5

Brandie Tarvin (8/9/2010)
Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?
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Haven't heard of it. What is it? Is that lumberjack terms for the rig carrying logs?

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Chris Morris-439714 (8/9/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (8/9/2010)
Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic961511-146-2.aspx#bm966015
It's a forestry expression.

That is scary - check the timestamps of your reply and my last reply.

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ChrisM@Work SSC Guru Points: 186127 More actions · Answer 7

CirquedeSQLeil (8/9/2010)
Chris Morris-439714 (8/9/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (8/9/2010)
Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic961511-146-2.aspx#bm966015
It's a forestry expression.
That is scary - check the timestamps of your reply and my last reply.

I have a cunning bushy plan...

Not being a DBA, forestry is the first thing which came to mind. Have you seen the National Geographic series about using Chinooks to lift valuable timber from inaccessible slopes in Canada?

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For fast, accurate and documented assistance in answering your questions, please read this article.
Understanding and using APPLY, (I) and (II) Paul White
Hidden RBAR: Triangular Joins / The "Numbers" or "Tally" Table: What it is and how it replaces a loop Jeff Moden

SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 8

Chris Morris-439714 (8/9/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (8/9/2010)
Chris Morris-439714 (8/9/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (8/9/2010)
Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic961511-146-2.aspx#bm966015
It's a forestry expression.
That is scary - check the timestamps of your reply and my last reply.
I have a cunning bushy plan...
Not being a DBA, forestry is the first thing which came to mind. Have you seen the National Geographic series about using Chinooks to lift valuable timber from inaccessible slopes in Canada?

Nope. There is a lot of interesting machinery in logging. We've watched the Discovery channel series on logging and they have some real nasty equipment to do that stuff.

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Ray K SSC-Dedicated Points: 31164 More actions · Answer 9

Alvin Ramard (8/9/2010)
Brandie Tarvin (8/9/2010)
Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?
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It depends on who says that. I think DBAs should know what it means but I would suspect that many developers do not know and I'm not sure there's any reason to expect they should know it.

I concur. I'm primarily a developer (not a DBA), and though I've heard of it, I'm not entirely sure as to what it means.

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Paul White SSC Guru Points: 150467 More actions · Answer 10

Brandie Tarvin (8/9/2010)
Is it wrong to cry when someone tells me they don't know what Bulk-Logged is?

Probably not. My experience is that most DBAs, even if they have heard of Bulk Logged, and think they know what it means and how to use it...don't.

So no tears; a shrug and a small sigh perhaps.

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Ron McCullough SSC Guru Points: 63877 More actions · Answer 11

Celko is at it again

http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic965546-1292-1.aspx#bm966047

For a community which attempts to help, even the most inept, and helps so many this guy Celko is a real detriment ....

Is there any way of shutting him up, or teaching him you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?

If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.

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Ben Teraberry SSChampion Points: 11845 More actions · Answer 12

bitbucket-25253 (8/9/2010)
Celko is at it again
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic965546-1292-1.aspx#bm966047
For a community which attempts to help, even the most inept, and helps so many this guy Celko is a real detriment ....
Is there any way of shutting him up, or teaching him you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?

The frustrating thing to me is that he's not only rude, but he rarely gives any practical advice ("you're dumb, read all my books" probably doesn't help too many people) ... and all of that on top of the fact that he's trying so hard to get his name out there that he'll even insert himself in threads that are being resolved by people who actually want to help.

Keep hoping he'll just go away but that doesn't seem to be happening.

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Alvin Ramard SSC-Forever Points: 41190 More actions · Answer 13

bitbucket-25253 (8/9/2010)
Celko is at it again
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic965546-1292-1.aspx#bm966047
For a community which attempts to help, even the most inept, and helps so many this guy Celko is a real detriment ....
Is there any way of shutting him up, or teaching him you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?

If you wait a bit you may be able to read his response to your question.

Alvin Ramard
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LutzM SSC Guru Points: 107049 More actions · Answer 14

bitbucket-25253 (8/9/2010)
... teaching him you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?

:-D;-):-D

I don't think that's actually true: That's how we get rid of fruit flies:

1/2 shot glass cider vinegar,

1/2 shot glass water and

a little dishwashing liquid all in a saucer.

It never worked with honey though...

:-D;-):-D

Edit: Now I realize the difference: We're not catching the flies, we're killing... Put's everything back into perspective 😀

Lutz
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Gail Shaw SSC Guru Points: 1004504 More actions · Answer 15

bitbucket-25253 (8/9/2010)
... or teaching him you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?

Thing is, he's not behaving that way out of ignorance. He's behaving that way because he wants to behave that way and be seen the way he presents himself (for whatever reasons)

Gail Shaw
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