Are the posted questions getting worse?
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Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
...the only reason why I know how to write one (or at least I think I know how to write one :hehe:)...The cursor you wrote is a FAST_FORWARD one (in effect) - you would need to add the STATIC keyword to make it go just that little bit less slowly 😎
You can take some pride in that. 😛
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David Burrows (7/6/2010)
Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
If you take a look at the rest of that post, it's saying "Don't use cursors" 72 different ways.Making excuses after the fact does not excuse you :Whistling:
Heh... yeah, you're right... "I've been a baaaadddd boy!" 😛
--Jeff Moden
RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally) -
Paul White NZ (7/6/2010)
Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
...the only reason why I know how to write one (or at least I think I know how to write one :hehe:)...The cursor you wrote is a FAST_FORWARD one (in effect) - you would need to add the STATIC keyword to make it go just that little bit less slowly 😎
You can take some pride in that. 😛
Oddly enough, I'd heard that Forward_Only Read_Only was faster than Fast_Forward. Heh.... guess what I'm NOT going to test. :hehe:
--Jeff Moden
RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally) -
Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
Oddly enough, I'd heard that Forward_Only Read_Only was faster than Fast_Forward. Heh.... guess what I'm NOT going to test. :hehe:Yep, but you also need to specify STATIC for that to be true. Otherwise, your FORWARD_ONLY, READ_ONLY combo *is* a FAST_FORWARD cursor. I tested it so you don't have to ;c)
See http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis/archive/2007/11/21/curious-cursor-optimization-options.aspx
I think that's the thing you were referring to.
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will you guys cut this crap out? If I wanted to LEARN, I'd go somewhere else...:-D:hehe:
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jcrawf02 (7/6/2010)
will you guys cut this crap out? If I wanted to LEARN, I'd go somewhere else...:-D:hehe:RotFL 😀
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Paul White NZ (7/6/2010)
Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
Oddly enough, I'd heard that Forward_Only Read_Only was faster than Fast_Forward. Heh.... guess what I'm NOT going to test. :hehe:Yep, but you also need to specify STATIC for that to be true. Otherwise, your FORWARD_ONLY, READ_ONLY combo *is* a FAST_FORWARD cursor. I tested it so you don't have to ;c)
See http://sqlblog.com/blogs/hugo_kornelis/archive/2007/11/21/curious-cursor-optimization-options.aspx
I think that's the thing you were referring to.
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BWAA-HAAA!!!!! WHOOOOOOOIIIIIEEEE!!!! Ya just gotta love it when a bunch of SQL Server MVP's try to optimizer cursors!
--Jeff Moden
RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally) -
tosscrosby (7/2/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (7/1/2010)
Alvin Ramard (7/1/2010)
Stefan Krzywicki (6/30/2010)
GabyYYZ (6/30/2010)
Happy Canada Day for all Canadians north of the 49th and in the diaspora!Is it not Canada Day for Canadians in Canada south of the 49th?
It felt like a regular work day for me.
How y'all doin, eh?
Welcome back
Alvin was gone? 😀
I still am. :hehe:
Alvin Ramard
Memphis PASS Chapter[/url]All my SSC forum answers come with a money back guarantee. If you didn't like the answer then I'll gladly refund what you paid for it.For best practices on asking questions, please read the following article: Forum Etiquette: How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help[/url]
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Alvin Ramard (7/6/2010)
tosscrosby (7/2/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (7/1/2010)
Alvin Ramard (7/1/2010)
Stefan Krzywicki (6/30/2010)
GabyYYZ (6/30/2010)
Happy Canada Day for all Canadians north of the 49th and in the diaspora!Is it not Canada Day for Canadians in Canada south of the 49th?
It felt like a regular work day for me.
How y'all doin, eh?
Welcome back
Alvin was gone? 😀
I still am. :hehe:
Actually, I was never here. 😀
Exec DBCC_Timewarp @DeleteHistory = TRUE
Alvin Ramard
Memphis PASS Chapter[/url]All my SSC forum answers come with a money back guarantee. If you didn't like the answer then I'll gladly refund what you paid for it.For best practices on asking questions, please read the following article: Forum Etiquette: How to post data/code on a forum to get the best help[/url]
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WayneS (7/5/2010)
Since there's a bit of talk going on about topics to present and such, I'd like to get some input from some of the Threadizens...I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article[/url] that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
YES
Jason...AKA CirqueDeSQLeil
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CirquedeSQLeil (7/6/2010)
WayneS (7/5/2010)
Since there's a bit of talk going on about topics to present and such, I'd like to get some input from some of the Threadizens...I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article[/url] that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
YES
Yes... especially with code examples.
--Jeff Moden
RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
Helpful Links:
How to post code problems
How to Post Performance Problems
Create a Tally Function (fnTally) -
Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (7/6/2010)
WayneS (7/5/2010)
Since there's a bit of talk going on about topics to present and such, I'd like to get some input from some of the Threadizens...I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article[/url] that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
YES
Yes... especially with code examples.
Hmm, now I need to figure out how to not be boring...
Do you think the code examples in the article are sufficient, or do I need to do more?
Wayne
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
Author - SQL Server T-SQL Recipes
If you can't explain to another person how the code that you're copying from the internet works, then DON'T USE IT on a production system! After all, you will be the one supporting it!
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WayneS (7/6/2010)
Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (7/6/2010)
WayneS (7/5/2010)
Since there's a bit of talk going on about topics to present and such, I'd like to get some input from some of the Threadizens...I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article[/url] that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
YES
Yes... especially with code examples.
Hmm, now I need to figure out how to not be boring...
Do you think the code examples in the article are sufficient, or do I need to do more?
Assuming a one hour presentation... Yeah, I'd add a lot more scripts. But then, I prefer presenting with scripts to presenting with slides. I talk and show code. My slides are just place holders. It really depends on how you want to present the info.
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Grant Fritchey (7/7/2010)
WayneS (7/6/2010)
Jeff Moden (7/6/2010)
CirquedeSQLeil (7/6/2010)
WayneS (7/5/2010)
Since there's a bit of talk going on about topics to present and such, I'd like to get some input from some of the Threadizens...I've been contemplating making a presentation to the UG based on the Comparing Table Variables with Temporary Tables article[/url] that I wrote last year - do you'll think that this would make a good presentation?
YES
Yes... especially with code examples.
Hmm, now I need to figure out how to not be boring...
Do you think the code examples in the article are sufficient, or do I need to do more?
Assuming a one hour presentation... Yeah, I'd add a lot more scripts. But then, I prefer presenting with scripts to presenting with slides. I talk and show code. My slides are just place holders. It really depends on how you want to present the info.
Interesting how today's QotD[/url] fell right in line with this topic... good example of one of the differences.
Wayne
Microsoft Certified Master: SQL Server 2008
Author - SQL Server T-SQL Recipes
If you can't explain to another person how the code that you're copying from the internet works, then DON'T USE IT on a production system! After all, you will be the one supporting it!
Links:
For better assistance in answering your questions
Performance Problems
Common date/time routines
Understanding and Using APPLY Part 1 & Part 2 -
I'm completely missing the point of the questioner over here. Can someone else give them a hand maybe?
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