Application Slow

  • Matt Miller (3/12/2008)


    I know I'm showing late to the party - but is there any chance to make that a covering index? Assuming those extra fields aren't ludicrously long - you'd be able to get rid of the bookmark lookups....

    Matt,

    Mind reader!!

    Thanks,

    Phillip Cox

  • Matt Miller (3/12/2008)


    I know I'm showing late to the party - but is there any chance to make that a covering index? Assuming those extra fields aren't ludicrously long - you'd be able to get rid of the bookmark lookups....

    Matt,

    From now on I will be referring to you as the LATE Matt Miller.

    Ronnie,

    Here is a list of questions that have popped into my head as I have thought about the issue (questions on the same line are related):

    Is the query always run from the same place in the application or are there different places it is run from? If you run the "same" query with schema.table and table you will get 2 plans and reduce the space in cache by having "duplicate" queries cached. You really should use teh schema.table syntax.

    Have you checked CacheHits, CacheMisses?

    What is the order of the columns in the composite index? Do they match the order of the Where clause?

    Have you tried reversing the order of the SARG to see if that causes the optimizer to always choose the composite index?

    How often are CRUD operations run on this table? It could be a longer running transaction causing contention.

  • Jack Corbett (3/12/2008)


    Matt,

    From now on I will be referring to you as the LATE Matt Miller.

    Hey hey hey....

    As the famous line from Monty Python's Holy Grail...

    "I'm not dead yet...."

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Your lack of planning does not constitute an emergency on my part...unless you're my manager...or a director and above...or a really loud-spoken end-user..All right - what was my emergency again?

  • Ronnie:

    You know, I do believe that I had this 4 days ago:

    rbarryyoung (3/8/2008)


    Although there are a huge number of possible reasons for this behavior, in my experience it is almost always due to one of two probable influences:

    1) Irregularities in the optimizer/statistics facilities. SQL Server 2000 had a number of issues in this area which you can research at Microsoft, however, it is usually easy enough to tell if this may be the cause. Compare the query plan of 20 sec responses to the 2 sec instances. If they are significantly different then that is your likely cause. The easiest Quick & Dirty short-term fix is to add query hints to force them to choose the plan you know they should use.

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  • All,

    Thanks for the help on this.

    Ronnie

  • Hi,

    Sorry if I'm locking the stable door after the horse has bolted, but have you checked out this article on "Parameter Sniffing"?

    http://omnibuzz-sql.blogspot.com/2006/11/parameter-sniffing-stored-procedures.html

  • Never too late for good info... thanks for the link.

    One of the things I've found is that even when you use that method to "disable" parameter sniffing, SQL Server can still make some pretty bad choices... I've found that WITH RECOMPILE usually works. I've also found that, for non GUI facing code, dynamic SQL works awesome, as well.

    --Jeff Moden


    RBAR is pronounced "ree-bar" and is a "Modenism" for Row-By-Agonizing-Row.
    First step towards the paradigm shift of writing Set Based code:
    ________Stop thinking about what you want to do to a ROW... think, instead, of what you want to do to a COLUMN.

    Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.


    Helpful Links:
    How to post code problems
    How to Post Performance Problems
    Create a Tally Function (fnTally)

  • Hi,

    We've had the same problem before where our APPLICATION was the complain of the customer. Have you checked your server RAM?

    Initially, we were only using 1gb of ram with 5 client users accessing one server. As per checking in task manager mem peaks ar .91gb of mem usage, so we just upgraded the RAM to 2 gb and everything worked like a miracle. It so happens that SQL Server 2000 peaks at arounf 1.71gb or RAM usage.

    So you might want to try this option.

  • As Phillip suggested, you may want to check the index stats. Use DBCC SHOWCONTIG to see if indexes are fragmented and consider rebuilding/defragging them. Another thing to look at is external fragmentation of the disk. Check it with a tool like DiskKeeper. That also affects DB performance.

  • I wonder if you application is using cursors.

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