October 3, 2006 at 10:56 am
That Quest ad running now (an animated "dog-eared" page at the top right corner of the window) has to be one of the most annoying things I've seen lately. How 'bout a policy that keeps ads inside a predefined area of the page(s) on the site?
October 3, 2006 at 6:24 pm
**ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI !!!**
October 3, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Here, here! I couldn't agree more. Pleeeeezzze ditch that ad. It freezes up your browser.
Thanks.
G. Milner
October 4, 2006 at 1:56 am
I find myself wondering if it is worth turning off all the scripting and graphic features in my browser and going back to text-only. All these animated adds are distracting at the side of the page.
Having said that, these peeled corner adds are quite clever. Cunning the way they always get in the way when you are trying to use the scroll bar...
David
If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
October 4, 2006 at 3:54 am
Swithcing between tabs in firefox seems a real killer with these ads. The switch takes several seconds. With normal pages it is instant.
Prefer the old banners to be fair. Only because these are performance killers. Viaully they are OK.
October 4, 2006 at 8:18 am
If you use Firefox, get the Flashblock and Adblock extensions. The animation is a Flash object, which will appear as a VCR play button when using Flashblock. If you want it play, just click the button. Great way to block Flash (Adobe, formerly Macromedia) stuff, which I cannot tolerate at all.
October 4, 2006 at 9:10 am
GREAT tip. Flashblock killed it nicely, and other animations which I found merely distracting.
October 5, 2006 at 3:34 pm
I don't care what anybody says... that ad is about the neatest one I have ever seen. Makes me want to go back to having sites just to use the technique... It NEVER comes down when I don't want it... and alas, today it appears to be gone
<SNIFF>
<SIGH>
Thank-you,
David Russell
Any Cloud, Any Database, Oracle since 1982
October 5, 2006 at 7:08 pm
There have been a couple other threads about this. We're experimenting with different ads at the request of our vendors. We were able to improve the page peel presentation quite a bit during the course of its first run, but we still had sporadic reports of problems. No real pattern either, nothing as simple as "it doesnt work in IE" or whatever. We just turned it off and it will be back again around Nov 1. Until then we're doing our 2nd test of the double underline ad.
We're as sensitive to ads and ad complaints as anyone, but it's worth some time to experiment and get feedback from all sides...readers, buyers, and vendors. We hope you'll bear with us while we try a few things and continue to give us your feedback so we can find ad methods that serve all parties well.
October 6, 2006 at 9:49 am
Like spam, this seems to be an arms race -- ads finding new ways to demand attention, and readers finding new ways to stop them.
For my part, I don't mind banners, and I know the ad revenue is important. I only block ads that are what I would call obnoxious (that seems to coincide with 'flash-based' lately). Basically ads that pop-up (or pop-over or pop-under) and interfere with my work by obscuring things. That was the reason for the original pop-up blocking features in browsers, which the adgineers have lately tried to circumvent by making the pop-up effect be activated by other methods. Its still essentially a pop-up, and still bugs me like pop-ups do/did.
To the ad folks: Just stop it. Really. Stop it. I see your ad already. I will buy what I want to buy, and I will not buy what I do not want, and being annoying does not help your situation.
October 6, 2006 at 6:24 pm
Nicely said. To some degree though the fact is that their tactics often prove effective, which makes it hard to talk them down from it.
I'd like to try a fancier model someday, ranging from pay for no ads at one of the scale, maybe an option to see a single big ad when you connect the first time that day, to the standard ads we have now. The truth is nothing is free, you pay (or should pay) one way or another. I don't begrudge people their ad blockers too much but the reason the content is free is because of the ads, however annoying. Hopefully here we've stayed short of the tipping point where people start to think 'no site is worth dealing with all those ads'!
Im biased of course, but done well ads can be almost as useful as the articles. End of wandering rant!
October 6, 2006 at 8:13 pm
I've never found the ads too obtrusive here. Primarly because they don't pop up everywhere or cause epileptic fits whilst reading the page
Also the ads are relevent, and I have considered several of the products, just got to wait until I can get the budget for them, but simply knowing about them helps for when the need arises.
The only anoying ones where more simple errors, such as killing the processor whilst having many tabs open, or one particular one that used to crash IE for me when ever it displayed. Never did find out which one that was as I never got to see it.
As for ad blocking I've stayed away from the blacklists and only block ads on manual basis when they are far to obtrusive, e.g. some of those flash ads for smilies that constantly play sounds from tribalfusion (they earnt a blanket block from me).
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