Abolish Disjointed Time

  • chrisn-585491 - Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:00 AM

    I was in the military and also did shift work, so time and place is just another thing you deal with.

    But I have this neat idea how to fix the calendar with it's stupid variable days in a month... 😛

    I'm intrigued - perhaps we could go to 5 * 73 day months every year? 😉 I think it's Prickle-Prickle, Chaos 68 today, no?

  • call.copse - Friday, March 9, 2018 2:43 AM

    chrisn-585491 - Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:00 AM

    I was in the military and also did shift work, so time and place is just another thing you deal with.

    But I have this neat idea how to fix the calendar with it's stupid variable days in a month... 😛

    I'm intrigued - perhaps we could go to 5 * 73 day months every year? 😉 I think it's Prickle-Prickle, Chaos 68 today, no?

    (going off topic)

    I once did tech. support for a company that had their financial year organised into 13 months of 28 days and one intercalary day (which, if I remember correctly, was Christmas Day. Payroll went out every 28 days and their employees got paid then, regardless of when it the month it was.
    The accountant told me that it took a few months to get used to it but once you had, it seemed completely natural.

  • Well, I sure do hope that now we've had a couple days to, as we used to say, 'simmer down' about DST, maybe we can get back to some of the lesser issues such as a new larger data type for the national debt, or maybe how we can better stereotype the loonies running around getting ready to kill folks. ( Did you ever notice that in the published pictures of the crazy killers there is often that certain look in the eye or facial expression?)  I sure hope all of your little ones survived this traumatic experience of losing an hour due to these drastic measures.

    Yeah, go ahead and vilify me, and then get over it.  ;>)

    Rick
    Disaster Recovery = Backup ( Backup ( Your Backup ) )

  • skeleton567 - Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:18 AM

    Well, I sure do hope that now we've had a couple days to, as we used to say, 'simmer down' about DST, maybe we can get back to some of the lesser issues such as a new larger data type for the national debt, or maybe how we can better stereotype the loonies running around getting ready to kill folks. ( Did you ever notice that in the published pictures of the crazy killers there is often that certain look in the eye or facial expression?)  I sure hope all of your little ones survived this traumatic experience of losing an hour due to these drastic measures.

    Yeah, go ahead and vilify me, and then get over it.  ;>)

    Let me guess, you double bagged your coffee maker this morning?  :crazy:

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • Eric M Russell - Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:26 AM

    skeleton567 - Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:18 AM

    Well, I sure do hope that now we've had a couple days to, as we used to say, 'simmer down' about DST, maybe we can get back to some of the lesser issues such as a new larger data type for the national debt, or maybe how we can better stereotype the loonies running around getting ready to kill folks. ( Did you ever notice that in the published pictures of the crazy killers there is often that certain look in the eye or facial expression?)  I sure hope all of your little ones survived this traumatic experience of losing an hour due to these drastic measures.

    Yeah, go ahead and vilify me, and then get over it.  ;>)

    Let me guess, you double bagged your coffee maker this morning?  :crazy:

    OH, I meant the look in the eyes of the killers...  I have had my usual 32 ounces of java so far.   And this is the third day from the time change.

    Rick
    Disaster Recovery = Backup ( Backup ( Your Backup ) )

  • I was awake during the time change, so I still got 8 hours sleep, no problem.  Time to move on.

  • Lynn Pettis - Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:50 AM

    I was awake during the time change, so I still got 8 hours sleep, no problem.  Time to move on.

    wow, Lynn, that is without a doubt the most intelligent solution that I've seen on here yet.  Many years ago when I was a newbie in IT, we had a saying that I attributed to someone at IBM, back in their hayday, of 'Use the KISS method'  For you who may not have been there, the means 'Keep it simple, Stupid'.  Lynn has done that.  Bravo!

    Rick
    Disaster Recovery = Backup ( Backup ( Your Backup ) )

  • Daylight Savings Time makes winter days extra short and summer days extra long. Aside from traditional farming, that's also useful for the construction and vacation industry.

    "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

  • I see that I made a comment on this topic five years ago.   Wow, time gets away.  I agree about the days feeling extra long.  And I was in fact a traditional farm boy too, many years ago.  The additional hours of sunlight gave us more time get things done after school and jobs.  Admittedly I wasn't so fond of having to do outdoor chores in the dark and cold, but that was on 'standard' time anyway. Now the extra long summer evenings give us more time to sit outdoors and enjoy a glass of wine or bottle of beer with neighbors after they get home from work.  And the shorter winter daylight hours actually encourage us to begin enjoying our dinner on trays in our Lazy Boys while we have a longer evening of relaxed movie-watching.

    Rick
    Disaster Recovery = Backup ( Backup ( Your Backup ) )

  • I think there shouldn't be time zones, let alone DST. The entire globe should be Noon, as an example.  Pick a time zone, and the whole world can follow it.

    You will never ask the question "What time is it in XYZ?".

    Michael L John
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  • I have lived in six different states, and worked in IT in three different states.  I have to say that never in my 42 years did we worry about timezone effects on data, even in 24/7/365 operations and in multi-state companies.  I can understand that possibly for legal reasons, especially in the medical world this could be a consideration, but other than that, who cares?

    A good part of my career was even spent in Indiana where even within the state there are two different timezones.  Counties in the northwest and southwest corners of the state go with Illinois and Central while the rest go Eastern.  Really, who cares whether those few incoming orders, for instance, or outgoing invoices are dated between 11:00 AND 12:00 pm or between 12:00am and 1:00 am.  It's two freakin' days a year.  And it's a Saturday/Sunday night anyway. Probably the least active period in business systems.  And even if your systems are down over midnight, does anybody give a shit what day it is?

    Sure, I know there are exceptions, but they must be very few.  Here's one for you all to puzzle over.  What day is it and what time is it at the North Pole and South Pole?  Can you arrive the day after you depart?  Or depart the day before you arrive?  What time is lunch?

    I also marvel at the angst of folks having to get up an hour earlier one day a year for a job, but will happily get up earlier to catch a flight for vacation, stay up late to watch a movie, etc.  Get over it.  Children have trouble adjusting to the change?  Just don't tell them about it.  Get up, make enough noise to wake them, and move on.  There are so many more important things to worry about.

    Many things in SQL development are far more difficult to do correctly.  Even processes that begin on one day and end on another work if handled right.

    I just thank God every morning that I DO wake up, no matter the time.

     

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    Rick
    Disaster Recovery = Backup ( Backup ( Your Backup ) )

  • Michael L John wrote:

    I think there shouldn't be time zones, let alone DST. The entire globe should be Noon, as an example.  Pick a time zone, and the whole world can follow it.

    You will never ask the question "What time is it in XYZ?".

     

    Instead you'll have to ask "what time is in the morning there"?

  • Michael L John wrote:

    I think there shouldn't be time zones, let alone DST. The entire globe should be Noon, as an example.  Pick a time zone, and the whole world can follow it.

    You will never ask the question "What time is it in XYZ?".

    That would be a crazy cultural shift, but I tend to agree it would make things simpler. However, the challenge then for humans is that when it's 0100 in NZ, it's tomorrow. However, it's 7am today for Colorado. That's hard to reconcile as my date would be different than someone else's.

    So time better, date not so much. I don't want my dates starting at 6am every day. Can you imagine how poorly people would code software then?

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