January 20, 2002 at 12:00 am
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K. Brian Kelley
@kbriankelley
January 23, 2002 at 1:30 pm
Brian,
nice introductary article. I'd love to see a followup dealing with more complex designs and including child tables.
Steve Jones
January 23, 2002 at 1:47 pm
That is something I plan on doing. This first article was to solve the question of, "What do I give the developers?!?"
K. Brian Kelley
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K. Brian Kelley
@kbriankelley
January 23, 2002 at 3:06 pm
I liked your article too. I always hear database people talk about normalization and denormalization and the various levels of normalization without really understanding what they are talking about. Now I understand this better and will understand when I hear it again. Thanks!
Robert Marda
Robert W. Marda
Billing and OSS Specialist - SQL Programmer
MCL Systems
March 13, 2003 at 7:15 am
I didn't find this to be very well-written. I gave up on it after seeing repeating data conflated with redundancy and seeing 2NF described as "all attributes describing the entire key".
March 13, 2003 at 7:59 am
Good article but as Steve said it is indroductary. If you've got developers who don't understand normal forms you've got bigger problems on your hand.
March 13, 2003 at 10:20 am
Hi jrobertsteg,
Can you elaborate more on your concerns and perhaps discuss how you'd present it?
K. Brian Kelley
http://www.truthsolutions.com/
Author: Start to Finish Guide to SQL Server Performance Monitoring
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K. Brian Kelley
@kbriankelley
March 13, 2003 at 10:22 am
mdhealy, I'd agree with you, but unfortunately, it's the reality of the situation. I've been in the position where I've said, "I would prefer you build your database this way..." (DBAs didn't have veto) and when asked why I said, "Normalization!" That's when I got the blank stare.
K. Brian Kelley
http://www.truthsolutions.com/
Author: Start to Finish Guide to SQL Server Performance Monitoring
http://www.netimpress.com/shop/product.asp?ProductID=NI-SQL1
K. Brian Kelley
@kbriankelley
March 13, 2003 at 3:18 pm
I'd like to see a follow up article from the other side of the fence. De-normalizing the databaase for datawarehousing/reporting.
In my current contract, where we are building a small datamart, I've run up against a lot of resistance to denormalizing the database.
We've been able to alleviate some concerns by keeping the tables somewhat normalized and denormalizing via indexed views, but we still get a lot of weird looks.
Hope this helps
Phill Carter
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March 13, 2003 at 11:08 pm
That's a good idea. I'll have to add it to the list of articles I need to write. Of course, if someone is a hardcore data warehousing DBA (I know you guys are out there) write up an article and submit it to Steve, Andy, or Brian Knight!
K. Brian Kelley
http://www.truthsolutions.com/
Author: Start to Finish Guide to SQL Server Performance Monitoring
http://www.netimpress.com/shop/product.asp?ProductID=NI-SQL1
K. Brian Kelley
@kbriankelley
July 13, 2003 at 2:33 am
Good article.
Some more things could be elaborated more.
Surrogate key is another issue.
Why we need another key, etc. may be another very usefull
Preethi
G.R. Preethiviraj Kulasingham
Cheers,
Prithiviraj Kulasingham
http://preethiviraj.blogspot.com/
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