September 4, 2003 at 8:55 am
Years ago, I belonged to a Listserv for Windows NT admins at LANMAN-L@LIST.NIH.GOV. It was informative as far as Windows NT went but nowhere near the level of expertise or fun that sqlservercentral.com provides for SQL admins. Currently, I belong to www.sqlmag.com but rarely visit there. It always seems cold and unfriendly. The feedback I have received from those that operate certain functional areas have always been dry and stuffy (maybe just a product of the electronic communication age and unemotional emails). I am also a member of dbforums.com. That is an excellent forum and I really like getting responses from MS certified professionals and employees. However, their membership is not as large as sqlservercentral.com.
In my opinion, I think what makes sqlservercentral.com is the sense of community that is creates. Flamining is very rare in the threads (although I can't say I haven't been flamed) but when it does happen, it's always corrected. Also, it's very rare that a sense of "let's make this guy/gal feel stupid" crops up. We are all here because we need some type of feedback for a problem, and whether the answer is exactly right, at least somebody is listening and responding in a timely fashion. I really like that!
All the best,
Dale
All the best,
Dale
Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio
September 4, 2003 at 9:21 am
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Currently, I belong to www.sqlmag.com but rarely visit there. It always seems cold and unfriendly.
although I'm subscribed to, I've only once visited the forum site. I agree with you.
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I am also a member of dbforums.com. That is an excellent forum and I really like getting responses from MS certified professionals and employees.
Me, too. In addition I'm on two other forums starting with SQL...
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In my opinion, I think what makes sqlservercentral.com is the sense of community that is creates. Flamining is very rare in the threads (although I can't say I haven't been flamed) but when it does happen, it's always corrected. Also, it's very rare that a sense of "let's make this guy/gal feel stupid" crops up. We are all here because we need some type of feedback for a problem, and whether the answer is exactly right, at least somebody is listening and responding in a timely fashion. I really like that!
first thing that comes to my mind are the subscription mails. When I joined I was actually looking for knowledge without the intent to particicate. the subscription and the modification the siteowners did to them, are really something special. I keep them for future references.
I think 'Flaming' or 'Making someone else look stupid' is not appropriate anywhere. Remember Forrest Gump?
Don't know the explanation in English, but in german it is something like :
'dumb is only someone who does dumb things' (Hope it isnt' too bad after all).
I think this is a very professional behaviour on behalf of the members and I really appreciate it.
Also, I think unsolved problems are not many around. If someone doesn't know the whole answer, someone else jumps right in.
Frank
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Microsoft SQL Server MVP
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September 4, 2003 at 9:28 am
I have been a member of many boards including
Code Guru
DBForums
Planet-Source-Code
Visual Developer
and hosts of others. The biggest problem I always found was they are just too gerneral and many folks jump in with knowledge from another system that does not pertain. (How many of you knwo that if someone says use DECODE that that is Oracle that is similar to CASE?) Alot gets dropped on other sites.
Funniest thing was I found and signed up for this site several months before I started using it. I have to say I do most of my research, commenting, and learning here more than ay other.
September 4, 2003 at 9:33 am
Frank,
I think you are looking for the quote:
"Stupid is as stupid does."
As for Antares686, I did the same thing. I joined, waited a few months, read a lot of commentaries and articles, then jumped right in. It's been a great experience so far.
All the best,
Dale
All the best,
Dale
Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio
September 4, 2003 at 9:47 am
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I think you are looking for the quote:"Stupid is as stupid does."
yes, that sounds better.
Frank
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Frank Kalis
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]
September 4, 2003 at 10:21 am
Thanks for the complements and notes. We couldn't have built this site without all of you!
Steve Jones
September 4, 2003 at 11:18 am
Yes, flaming someone else is just not a priority for this site. It's more of a community of mentors.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Generally you don't see that kind of behavior in a major appliance.
Patrick
Quand on parle du loup, on en voit la queue
September 4, 2003 at 11:24 am
One other thing, all the guys that post on here are extremely professional and polite about having a woman contribute. That is not always the case. I really appreciate that.
All the best,
Dale
All the best,
Dale
Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio
September 4, 2003 at 12:05 pm
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One other thing, all the guys that post on here are extremely professional and polite about having a woman contribute. That is not always the case. I really appreciate that.All the best,
Dale
Well one thing can be said then, we ain't the "He Mans Woman Hater Club" (for those who don't know that is a Little Rascals aka Our Gang reference for DALEC since in the age thread it sounds like she would have watched the reruns often too.
September 4, 2003 at 12:41 pm
I've noticed that it not just gender that is 'ignored'. There's no 'picking' on people based on what country they are from.
Everyone on this site is treated based on what they use the site for - we are all DBAs, or Programmers, or Developers or a combination of those. We are at all levels of experience, but even the first time poster is listened to.
Congrats for the 100,000+ members and I'm looking forward to many more years of this site being active.
-SQLBill
September 4, 2003 at 12:46 pm
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There's no 'picking' on people based on what country they are from.
You are soooooo right! I love my international SQL geeks!
All the best,
Dale
All the best,
Dale
Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio
September 4, 2003 at 1:11 pm
In addition the forums get a wide range of questions from newbies to experts.
Its a good place to exchange ideas, and promote the use of sql (and hopefully improve the standard of the members)
I espically like the daily questions, which are a good refresher / learning experience (depending if you know the answer or not. )
P.S. As for lots of International members, it helps with getting a good reponse when you are in a different time zone...
Edited by - steven_white40 on 09/04/2003 1:16:17 PM
Steven
September 5, 2003 at 12:34 am
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One other thing, all the guys that post on here are extremely professional and polite about having a woman contribute. That is not always the case. I really appreciate that.
I really see no reason why a woman should be looked upon because of posting to a forum!
After all, I don't think this is a community of members of the Al Bundy 'No`Mam' club.
Frank
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Frank Kalis
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Webmaster: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs
My blog: http://www.insidesql.org/blogs/frankkalis/[/url]
September 5, 2003 at 5:30 am
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Well one thing can be said then, we ain't the "He Mans Woman Hater Club" (for those who don't know that is a Little Rascals aka Our Gang reference for DALEC since in the age thread it sounds like she would have watched the reruns often too.
I got a kick at that after I thought about it. Yes, I remember Robert Blake and Little Rascals. Now, he's a perfect example of...
As for Al Bundy, well, there's just no excuse for him.
All the best,
Dale
All the best,
Dale
Author: An Introduction to SQL Server 2005 Management Studio
September 5, 2003 at 8:06 am
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I really see no reason why a woman should be looked upon because of posting to a forum!
Or anyone, for that matter. I've been on some forums in the past where newbies were blasted... that's counter-productive. My DE and math modeling professor in college taught me there only two types of dumb questions:
1) One you already know the answer to and are asking only to look smart.
2) The question you don't know the answer to and you fail to ask.
In the case of his classes, it was exclusively #2, but he made his point. He retired at the end of the last academic year so he's not passing on this wisdom to senior math majors any longer.
K. Brian Kelley
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Author: Start to Finish Guide to SQL Server Performance Monitoring
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