January 28, 2008 at 5:24 pm
I have to work with Team Foundation Server, Visual Studio client. I do both application development and database development. I installed Team Edition for Developers. I also need to install Team Edition for Database professionals. What would happen if I download and install it, would my Team Edition for Developers be somehow over-written/corrupted or I can install one thing over another? Or I need to have to separate versions of visual studios?
Team Suite has them all but it's expensive and I don't nee any other features, just development and database projects.
Thanks
January 28, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Are you licensed for the Team Suite? Because if you're not - I'm not sure where you would download DataDude from.
If you ARE licensed for it and have only installed VSTDev - then I'm thinking the Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition for Database Professionals Add-on for Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite Edition is your ticket. Assuming it detects the license it needs to find (don't ask me there), it will simply do what essentially is a maintenance install (or "add/remove features") and simply add in the new templates editors and functionality to your existing install.
From what I've seen in the past - if it DOESN't detect the licensing - it will just fail pretty much from the square and tell you it's not going to do it at all....
The Add-on I'm talking about is found on MS' download site, here:
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Your lack of planning does not constitute an emergency on my part...unless you're my manager...or a director and above...or a really loud-spoken end-user..All right - what was my emergency again?
January 29, 2008 at 8:35 am
No, my company is not licensed for team suit. Maybe they will buy it, maybe not. Our tech services provided me with Visual Studio Team Edition for Developers so I can work on the project on TFS. I never worked with TFS before, it looks very huge and horrible. I started to teach myself, read a book and it didn't help much. I downloaded video tutorial, started to repeat steps in the tutorial and find out I cannot add a database to TFS, I don't have a database project template in Visual Studio because I don't have Team Edition for database professionals.
I use SQL Server Management Studio to work with databases as well as WinSQL and Enterprise Manager for older databases.
So I don't know what to do with TFS, my company will not buy me Team Suit 🙁
January 29, 2008 at 10:54 am
Microsoft will allow you to transfer your Developer license to a Database license. I know because I did it. You just have to remove the developer edition before installing DBPro. Have fun. It's a great tool.
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January 30, 2008 at 6:26 am
If you haven't done so already be sure to download and install Power Tools for the Database Professional. It adds functionality such as additional data generators.
January 30, 2008 at 6:38 am
Oh yeah, do that. The Static Code Analysis tool is a great way to review TSQL. It replaces a lot of the functionality that they dropped from the Best Practices Analyzer between 2000 & 2005.
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- Theodore Roosevelt
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January 30, 2008 at 6:40 am
Grant Fritchey (1/30/2008)
Oh yeah, do that. The Static Code Analysis tool is a great way to review TSQL. It replaces a lot of the functionality that they dropped from the Best Practices Analyzer between 2000 & 2005.
At the last PASS Summit Gert Drapers said that they are going to try to get a data dictionary feature into the next release of Power Tools.
January 30, 2008 at 6:51 am
DonaldW (1/30/2008)
At the last PASS Summit Gert Drapers said that they are going to try to get a data dictionary feature into the next release of Power Tools.
That will make the DBA's slightly more popular than we are currently.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt
Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
January 30, 2008 at 7:01 am
Grant Fritchey (1/30/2008)
DonaldW (1/30/2008)
At the last PASS Summit Gert Drapers said that they are going to try to get a data dictionary feature into the next release of Power Tools.That will make the DBA's slightly more popular than we are currently.
Up the vermin scale from sewer rat to opossum, maybe? :w00t:
January 30, 2008 at 7:11 am
DonaldW (1/30/2008)
Up the vermin scale from sewer rat to opossum, maybe? :w00t:
Nah, we're still aspiring to reach sewer rat. I'm thinking this will get us from cockroach to water bug. :pinch:
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt
Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
January 30, 2008 at 9:02 am
"You just have to remove the developer edition before installing DBPro."
This was exactly my question. I don't want to remove anything. I am both. I need both. I am a developer. And I am a DBA. We don't have a separate DBA.
My question was can I have both dev and dbPro in the same Visual Studio if I don't have team suit?
January 30, 2008 at 9:08 am
Well - you can have both if you pay for both, yes. But this is one of those you can't have your cake and eat it too things.
I think by that point you might as well spring for Team Suite (which I think would be cheaper than paying for both.)
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Your lack of planning does not constitute an emergency on my part...unless you're my manager...or a director and above...or a really loud-spoken end-user..All right - what was my emergency again?
January 30, 2008 at 9:09 am
Physically, yes. The operate side by side with no issues. Licensing, you need a license for each, you have to trade one license in, or you have to get the suite.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood"
- Theodore Roosevelt
Author of:
SQL Server Execution Plans
SQL Server Query Performance Tuning
January 30, 2008 at 9:17 am
Life was so easy when I was doing open source:P
Long leave LAMP ..
By the way guys, you talk about how DBAs are under appreciated. You don't know what's a developer's life. Developer works like a dog overtime trying to finish the project in time and yet dev name is always last after the managers, coordinators, advisors etc etc if mentioned at all.
So cheer up DBAs. There are worse underdogs in the technology universe 😛
January 30, 2008 at 9:20 am
hehe....I hear you Vika - I'm both as well.
On Grant's scale of tolerability, I'm currently falling somewhere between staphilococcus and streptococcus....:)
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