May 16, 2012 at 7:14 pm
I tried searching for some explanation before posting, but I found nothing close to what I'd like to know. Ask SSC seems to be a board-type question site here on SSC. My question is, what is supposed to be the differences between this forum and Ask SSC (besides the obvious layout and asking/answering structure)? In other words, why post/answer here as opposed to Ask SSC and vice versa? Why do both exist?
Thanks! And again, if this has been hashed out before I apologize for the copy.
May 16, 2012 at 8:43 pm
AskSSC is more of a simple ask a question and get an answer type site. You won't find the kind of discussions there that occur here on ssc. I think you will find this site much more like a community wth the same ups and downs as a real community or work place.
Also, the forums here are pretty much open-ended. Even if an OP gets answer, there is no way to close a thread or mark a specific answer as correct. One of the things that can happen is someone else could come along later, see the question and answer and either ask additional questions since they may have a sililar issue, or they may have another alternative answer to the problem and provide it.
We also go off on tagents at times, but we normally keep it fairly professional, and if we stray to far, we've all been called to task and we come back more to fold. Many of us have in fact developed friendships here even though many of us have yet to meet in person.
Other than that, I'll let others add their two cents.
May 16, 2012 at 9:27 pm
One huge difference is the basis on reputation. ASK SSC is a stack overflow model that depends on up-votes and OPs marking the question as answered.
I find the forums on this side to be more conversation invoking. Each system has its merits.
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May 17, 2012 at 5:33 am
The basic idea behind having both is that some people absolutely loathe the conversations that take place here on SSC. So, a place has been provided where a specific question can be asked and a specific answer can be provided. The idea is to avoid the conversation entirely.
We've got both in an attempt to make people comfortable with whatever approach they prefer.
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May 17, 2012 at 9:51 am
Short answer: my boss wanted the StackExchange style forums on the site
Long Answer: my boss made us implement the StackExchange style Q&A, which I think has merits. As Grant, Lynn, Jason noted, the quick question/answer/voting style is something many people want. They want a hard answer to a question.
For me, I think that there are a domain of questions that fit that model, but often we have nuances about what choices should be made, and there is a why as to how a choice is made. When I read StackExchange sites, there often is a discussion buried in comments, but it loses it's flow when questions are edited too much and the order of answers moves, IMHO. I don't like that. I like our single threaded discussions here.
We disabled multi-threaded discussions because I think they lose flow as people reply to specific posts at different times.
Ask works well, but I think it depends on the questioner asking a pointed, fairly specific question.
May 17, 2012 at 10:37 pm
Thomas Stringer (5/16/2012)
I tried searching for some explanation before posting, but I found nothing close to what I'd like to know. Ask SSC seems to be a board-type question site here on SSC. My question is, what is supposed to be the differences between this forum and Ask SSC (besides the obvious layout and asking/answering structure)? In other words, why post/answer here as opposed to Ask SSC and vice versa? Why do both exist?Thanks! And again, if this has been hashed out before I apologize for the copy.
I don't very often post on ASK or any similar type of forum because anyone with enough points (you don't actually have to be smart or right to get points) can edit my stuff. Whether I'm right or wrong, I prefer to be right or wrong on my own without someone changing what I said.
The other reason is that I don't do this stuff for points, reputation, or the "right" to edit someone else's stuff. I do it because I like helping others.
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May 17, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Jeff Moden (5/17/2012)
Thomas Stringer (5/16/2012)
I tried searching for some explanation before posting, but I found nothing close to what I'd like to know. Ask SSC seems to be a board-type question site here on SSC. My question is, what is supposed to be the differences between this forum and Ask SSC (besides the obvious layout and asking/answering structure)? In other words, why post/answer here as opposed to Ask SSC and vice versa? Why do both exist?Thanks! And again, if this has been hashed out before I apologize for the copy.
I don't very often post on ASK or any similar type of forum because anyone with enough points (you don't actually have to be smart or right to get points) can edit my stuff. Whether I'm right or wrong, I prefer to be right or wrong on my own without someone changing what I said.
The other reason is that I don't do this stuff for points, reputation, or the "right" to edit someone else's stuff. I do it because I like helping others.
I am sorry, but that is just wrong if someone can edit what someone else wrote. And let me guess, there isn't any way to know what was changed and by who either, right?
May 18, 2012 at 4:34 am
Lynn Pettis (5/17/2012)
Jeff Moden (5/17/2012)
Thomas Stringer (5/16/2012)
I tried searching for some explanation before posting, but I found nothing close to what I'd like to know. Ask SSC seems to be a board-type question site here on SSC. My question is, what is supposed to be the differences between this forum and Ask SSC (besides the obvious layout and asking/answering structure)? In other words, why post/answer here as opposed to Ask SSC and vice versa? Why do both exist?Thanks! And again, if this has been hashed out before I apologize for the copy.
I don't very often post on ASK or any similar type of forum because anyone with enough points (you don't actually have to be smart or right to get points) can edit my stuff. Whether I'm right or wrong, I prefer to be right or wrong on my own without someone changing what I said.
The other reason is that I don't do this stuff for points, reputation, or the "right" to edit someone else's stuff. I do it because I like helping others.
I am sorry, but that is just wrong if someone can edit what someone else wrote. And let me guess, there isn't any way to know what was changed and by who either, right?
What was changed? No. By who, oh yeah. It's posted there. I don't think I've had any of mine edited by others. I don't edit others either, especially not answers (occasionally I'll clean up formatting on a question). But yeah, it's a possibility.
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