November 9, 2015 at 1:18 am
Comments posted to this topic are about the item The Command Line is Back
November 9, 2015 at 3:27 am
I moved away from the command line as much as possible until PowerShell gripped me back in 2007. It has been very rewarding.
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
November 9, 2015 at 7:32 am
I won't be using any Windows tools I don't absolutely have to. MS has lost all of my trust.
Open source tools like PuTTY are tools I can trust. Less worry about spying on me, selling my data to the highest bidder, violating privacy laws - sorry, I am getting rid of every MS tool I can. So far SQL hasn't been found to have these issues, but I am sure some day it will.
Dave
November 9, 2015 at 7:48 am
djackson 22568 (11/9/2015)
...Less worry about spying on me, selling my data to the highest bidder, violating privacy laws - sorry, I am getting rid of every MS tool I can...
What have I missed?
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
November 9, 2015 at 9:11 am
Gary Varga (11/9/2015)
djackson 22568 (11/9/2015)
...Less worry about spying on me, selling my data to the highest bidder, violating privacy laws - sorry, I am getting rid of every MS tool I can...What have I missed?
Last week MS admitted they are spying on everyone with Windows 10, and stated there is nothing you can do about it. They also pushed updates to previous versions, 7, 8, 8.1, that force an upgrade to 10. They pulled those when people complained, and have now pushed them again. Windows 10 forces advertisements on people, targeted to your browsing history, and based on other data on your machine - and EVERYTHING stored on your PC is shared with MS. Allegedly Enterprise edition doesn't do "as much" but do we really trust them? What if I upgrade my home PC, VPN into work, and perform tasks that MS tracks? Which one of us violated HIPAA/Hi-Tech?
Worst of all, the license agreement states that users agree that MS can share anything they wish with federal, state and local authorities if MS believes you committed a crime. Not that you are convicted, just that MS suspects (or more likely doesn't like what you are doing). So now corporations get to decide who gets arrested?
Dave
November 9, 2015 at 9:20 am
The command line hasn't gone anywhere, it can't be "back". :ermm:
Even before PS and long after it got popular, I've been using the CLI on Windows, (as well as on other systems), as a tool to troubleshoot, configure and get things done. Remember all the cool utilities from the Resources Kits? Most of them were CLI. WSH? Perl? Python? Cygwin?
November 9, 2015 at 9:20 am
Thanks Dave. Missed that lot. Reminds me of Google's missteps a year or so ago...and trying to avoid a federal fight. We end up just observers and victims this side of the pond.
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
November 9, 2015 at 9:23 am
Dave,
Increased license costs of SQL Server will drive more business away from MS than security concerns. If the industry were concerned about security, we would have abandon C and C++ years ago in favor of Ada and it's ilk.
November 9, 2015 at 9:25 am
chrisn-585491 (11/9/2015)
The command line hasn't gone anywhere, it can't be "back". :ermm:
It can be "back in fashion" (i.e. popular) without ever going away.
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
November 9, 2015 at 9:26 am
Gary Varga (11/9/2015)
Thanks Dave. Missed that lot. Reminds me of Google's missteps a year or so ago...and trying to avoid a federal fight. We end up just observers and victims this side of the pond.
Well sort of. I am seeing a lot of press about European governments moving away from MS. My belief is that the government is paying them to do this, and there is evidence in certain emails that are in the press currently that prove that our government does in fact pay corporations to censor and spy. However the US tech industry is taking a huge hit due to the issue. I guess you guys and gals are smarter than we are. 🙂
Dave
November 9, 2015 at 9:41 am
Smarter? I doubt it! We are all knowingly duped a lot of the time.
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
November 9, 2015 at 12:37 pm
chrisn-585491 (11/9/2015)
The command line hasn't gone anywhere, it can't be "back". :ermm:Even before PS and long after it got popular, I've been using the CLI on Windows, (as well as on other systems), as a tool to troubleshoot, configure and get things done. Remember all the cool utilities from the Resources Kits? Most of them were CLI. WSH? Perl? Python? Cygwin?
They haven't been built in, which is some of the issue. I run into no shortage of machines that don't have tools and I can't install them.
November 9, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Command line, oh don't use that much anymore.
November 9, 2015 at 2:07 pm
They haven't been built in, which is some of the issue. I run into no shortage of machines that don't have tools and I can't install them.
Tis a shame. Couldn't manage Windows or Unix without tools. Limiting those to only PS or Bash would be like tying my hands.
But like I said, CLI lives on, you may not be in the right neighborhood to see it. 😀
November 9, 2015 at 3:18 pm
As much of the stuff I use is in the Linux world the command line features heavily in !y day to day role. To be honest it did before that as automation doesn't favour guis.
If you have to nursemaid your servers I can see that a GUI is essential but if you are nursemaiding stuff something isn't quite right
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