SSAS 2005 - Organistion Hierarchy - Parent Child Relationship

  • I am trying to create a dimension to show a company's organisational hierarchy which has the following structure.

    Division

    Department

    Manager

    Person

    My underlying table is structure as follows:-

    Division_Id

    Division_Name

    Department_Id

    Department_Name

    Person_Id

    Person_Name

    Manager_Id (this is a person_id)

    The manager_id/person_id have a parent/child relationship.

    My question is how do I build this in SSAS? My SSAS knowledge is limited. Using the dimension wizard I define person_id as my key column with the person_name as the member name. I then select parrent/child relationship with the manager_id.

    This almost produces what I want but I need to have additional levels before the manager/person relationship.

    If I then create a new hierarchy and drag accross division name, department name and then the manager_id hiearchy, I get a error stated that the source level of the attribute is marked as 'parent'.

    Can anyone help?

    Regards,

    J

  • There is an article I just read on BIDN about this.

    http://www.bidn.com/articles/miscellaneous/184/disecting-the-self-referencing-hierarchy

    Registration is required.

    I have also seen articles (also on BIDN) that suggest that a self referencing hierarchy will have very poor performance with more than a fairly small number of records, and it goes on to suggest that using strategies to flatten these self referencing hierarchies is generally a good idea.

  • Thanks Daniel but that article concerns parent/child SQL queries not the creation of a SSAS dimension to reflect that relationship.

    As I said, I already create a dimension with the parent/child relationship defined but it is only defined between 2 attributes i.e. manager_id and person_id. I need to be able to display the higher levels too i.e. division/department/manager/person.

    Any further suggestions much appreciated.

    Regards,

    James

  • James,

    Short answer, AFAIK, you can't do it the way you want to do it. What you can do, is add additional rows to the P-C table (ie Department will get an employee id and Managers may reference that emp_id as their 'manager').

    Alternatively, you 'unroll' the P-C nature of the table into a wider dimension table. If you want to do this, am pretty sure that the BIDS Helper now has this utility added into it.

    HTH,

    Steve.

  • Thanks for that Steve.

    Would you be able to expand on those methods a little? I've be looking at it since you replied and can't quite work it out.

    Regards,

    J

  • Jerstep,

    I think you will have to detail your plans to browse the cube a bit further.

    From your posting I see two different approaches to browse the data:

    * find the manager of a person (or all persons a manager is assigned to)

    * browse the company organisational structure

    You try to mix these, and that could be the problem.

    I would suggest a 'Organisation' Dimension that has two hierarchies:

    * the Division/Department/person hierarchy. This would be a standard hierarchy that you design in the middle or right pane of the dimension editor (depending on your settings)

    * the parent/child-relation of manager and employee. This is a parent-child hierarchy that is defined in the properties view of the dimension attribute. However, you can define only one parent-child-relation per dimension.

    You should define the Division and department attributes as relations in the key attribute (which is the person ID, I suppose) in the left pane. This allows you to query these values while browsing through the parent-child-relation.

    I hope this gives you a starting point for youer design...

    Guenter from Frankfurt/Germany

  • Guenter

    Thanks very much for your ideas/suggestions. I think they have helped me understand the problem I have and I can now move forward.

    Noch mal vielen Dank!

    Regards,

    J

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