February 12, 2019 at 9:20 pm
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February 13, 2019 at 4:50 am
It is definitely the case that the penny hasn't dropped with organisations. The intention of GDPR is to place ownership of personal data in the hands of the person rather than the body that collects it. But data is the new oil and it sounds like most organisations have no intention of restricting use of, access to, or getting rid of any personal data if they can find any perceived loophole allowing them to carry on as before.
A common mantra is "we're the good guys, we have our customers interests at heart. We're not like those other guys who make the customer the product".
Culture takes a long time to change, but a few really big fines might help to accelerate things.
February 13, 2019 at 6:30 am
Anyone else find it really disturbing when your typing a gmail and it auto finishes your sentence...?
gooogle knows your kink.... get used to it.
Google knows your wife is pregnant and who the real father is 😉
February 13, 2019 at 9:09 am
damien.keogh - Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:50 AMIt is definitely the case that the penny hasn't dropped with organisations. The intention of GDPR is to place ownership of personal data in the hands of the person rather than the body that collects it. But data is the new oil and it sounds like most organisations have no intention of restricting use of, access to, or getting rid of any personal data if they can find any perceived loophole allowing them to carry on as before.
A common mantra is "we're the good guys, we have our customers interests at heart. We're not like those other guys who make the customer the product".
Culture takes a long time to change, but a few really big fines might help to accelerate things.
Hey this service I use for free is getting something in return, weird..... how selfish of them.
February 13, 2019 at 9:31 am
It's not even about free Some of the issues are for paid services
Data really is the new oil and organizations are loathe to have any restrictions. Hopefully l that will change
February 13, 2019 at 10:02 am
Steve, I also worked through the Y2K crisis. Interesting times. I feel that it was largely a non-issue because companies and government agencies took the time and money to address the issue.
I am like you in that, for the most part, I want companies and government agencies to hold onto individuals data only so long as it is needed. However, I don't think that all situations are clear cut. For example, I work for a state department involved in health. We collect all sorts of health related data. Some of the data we collect needs to be kept for a long time. For example, we collect data on sexually transmitted diseases (STD), including the patient's partners. This is kept so that we can track the occurrence of STD's in an area. Should an increase of certain STD's happen, then some field agents will go to that location in an effort to intervene to reduce the incidents of STDs being spread. Therefore, I feel that keeping this PHI information long term is necessary for the general public's health. However, this is an exception and not something we apply to other health related data. I'll also add that the data is as secure as we can possibly make it.
Kindest Regards, Rod Connect with me on LinkedIn.
February 13, 2019 at 10:16 am
The problem with Google and FaceBook is that they want to create this alternate digital universe where they are essentially an all knowing, all judging, all powerful God. A universe where they create the rules and then change the rules. A universe where they pick the winners based on conformity, and those who speak blasphemy against the Digital God are flagged, penalized, and banished. So, that would be OK, if they were simply a country club with no power outside a very limited domain. But do we really want these companies controlling our economy, news, and politics on a global scale?
Remember when Google was just a search engine and FaceBook was a place where college students and soccer moms exchanged cat videos? Can we go back to that please? :satisfied:
"Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Instead, seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho
February 27, 2019 at 10:07 am
There's at least one foul trick being used by various companies to force their users to let them do whatever they like with the users' data. Instead of being allowed to express what they want safeguarded in a simple and straightforwards manner, users are presented with a a long list of companies with which the provider works and has to specify his preferences for how his data is handled separately for each one of them - nd the interface is designed to be as complex and confusing as possible, so that providing separate answers for each of several hundred (or several thousand) companies is far too time consumingfor typical users, who in ractice have only two possibilities: either say "you can do what you like with my data" or decide that they can't afford a couple of weeks of filling in these ridiculous forms and ceasing to use the company.
Google is not well behaved in its data handling, but I'd rather trust it to have some of my data than let Oath (the new owners of Yahoo) have any of it, because when I first tried logging in to Yahoo after Oath had updated it I was faced with the long list or partners problem, and it seemed clear that there were deliberate delays in the interface for filling in all that pointless junk.
Tom
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