May 30, 2016 at 8:24 pm
Comments posted to this topic are about the item More Overloads
May 31, 2016 at 2:57 am
I Love Standards…There Are So Many Of Them
Life would be so much simpler if everything had a clear and unambiguous name, but I fear it will never happen. Even with a Steve Jones, you have to set the context to get the right one: with SQL Server it means a cool dude running one of the best forum sites, but in a pub it means someone else, a friend from another part of town.
The effect on us of the Blue on Blue hits we get with the marketing folk and SQL Server are as nothing compared to the tidal wave of techno-babble that 'normal' people (anyone outside of the computing industry) gets from us. As the marketing folk might say, it is a zingy exciting part of making our work interesting.
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May 31, 2016 at 5:35 am
Wonderful idea, pure common-sense. Will never work. You face the devil's own job to get a people in the same company to sit in a room and come up with an agreed definition of what their customer is.
When someone invents an idiot proof system the universe invents a more sophisticated idiot.
May 31, 2016 at 6:41 am
From the Article:
This time ACID was taken to be: Algorithms, Computer/Cloud, IoT, and Data.
In their hurry to be cute or notable, they've opened themselves up to not only people objecting because of what you've stated in the article, but also because it opens them up to other less-than-complimentary terms.
Now we can add "ACID Rain" to the mix when any of that goes wrong, although the real reason is usually PEBCAC or PICNIC problems. 😛
--Jeff Moden
Change is inevitable... Change for the better is not.
May 31, 2016 at 7:44 am
Marketing and sales, the worst things possible when it comes to software. Fix that bug, no, that doesn't give sales anything new to sell. Add that new feature instead so I can afford the cruise I want...
Dave
May 31, 2016 at 8:52 am
Goes right along with new words for old concepts. "Cloud" = "client-server", and so on.
We have words with multiple meanings ("DBA" is right up there for unlimited ambiguity), and meanings with multiple words.
I think the term for this should be "English", defined as "A language with ambiguous words that may lead to imprecise transmission of ideas". We can make the Spanish word for it "Espanol", the French translation could be "Francais", and the German word for this concept could be "Deutsch", and so on. Does that work for everyone?
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June 1, 2016 at 12:30 am
What is worse is when people don't clarify their meaning or they don't call the new word into question and blindly except it.
One of the irritating problem with a rockstar colleague who overloads the term replication to mean: clustering, log shipping, actual replication ,and occasionally just backup and restore or even just etl. Doesn't help when the discussion is about DR. Sounds impressive when speaking but doesn't help whatsoever with the solving any issue.
Anyway...
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – – that’s all.”
June 1, 2016 at 6:42 am
Work in multiple business and technical domains with different operating systems, utilities, and programming languages and it gets really silly and confusing.
June 1, 2016 at 7:33 am
When my brother was at college, he was astonished by his friend's reaction to the statement "I'm just going for a tommy". Both parties understood this to be rhyming slang; where we come from, it's "Tom tit", where his friend came from it was "Thomas the tank engine". I think you can understand the confusion!
June 1, 2016 at 8:16 am
Chris Wooding (6/1/2016)
When my brother was at college, he was astonished by his friend's reaction to the statement "I'm just going for a tommy". Both parties understood this to be rhyming slang; where we come from, it's "Tom tit", where his friend came from it was "Thomas the tank engine". I think you can understand the confusion!
Understand the confusion, maybe. But what does it mean?
Dave
June 2, 2016 at 7:38 am
While I understand why a generic term as logs can have different meanings in different contexts, I really don't understand the need to come up with a new meaning for an acronym like ACID. Apart from being "cool".
June 2, 2016 at 8:27 am
Note to CEO's (or to whom it may concern): if your whiz marketing team comes to you with their brilliant idea of trying to 'piggyback' or 'leverage' a technical acronym that's been around forever (especially part of the orthodox curriculum) claiming that it will communicate your message more effectively then you should probably show them the door. The 'effect' will most likely be your intended audience of decision makers viewing your product like they do deceptive junk mail (ooh it's a bill I better open it... oops it's a magazine solicitation) and will throw it in the trash.*
That is my rationale/logic but marketing is more psychology than anything else so what do I know...
*a 5% response in a mass mail campaign is great but I can't believe you would target a technical customer base with that kind of strategy without risking alienating most of them.
January 10, 2017 at 5:07 pm
djackson 22568 (6/1/2016)
Chris Wooding (6/1/2016)
When my brother was at college, he was astonished by his friend's reaction to the statement "I'm just going for a tommy". Both parties understood this to be rhyming slang; where we come from, it's "Tom tit", where his friend came from it was "Thomas the tank engine". I think you can understand the confusion!Understand the confusion, maybe. But what does it mean?
Either you are joking or I hope someone has PM'd you. Definitely not for public consumption.
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
January 10, 2017 at 5:11 pm
Overloads are inevitable, however, to do so deliberately in order to be "cute" is a negative for me. Asked for my opinion, I would have to admit that any sort of messing around like that would be detrimental to my recommendation.
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
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