January 10, 2014 at 9:01 am
Up untill now I have handed over my code to be deployed.
Now things are different and it caused me to think. Once the SQL software is installed and an instance created, which account would you use to create your database and its objects? If you used SSIS and SSAS as well would this be a different account when deploying.
As I mentioned SSIS I would prefer answers relevant to SQL 2012 rather than 2008.
Are there any good links / white papers etc as this must be documented somewhere as a best practice.
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E
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January 12, 2014 at 8:42 am
I don't think there is a single right answer to this. I very much believe that you should NOT use the administrative accounts as owners of the databases or for any other security other than administrative tasks. From there, all security should be set up using as little access as possible. Meaning, if a login only needs read access, only give it read access. If login needs to read and write data, only let it read and write data, etc.
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January 12, 2014 at 11:04 am
I agree with Grant. If you're responsible only for given databases, you should have only dbo privs as a max. I would also strongly recommend that all code being promoted use ONLY the 2 part naming convention to prevent any confusion (and, it helps performance a bit, as well) especially if there's some other schema in play other than just dbo. It will also help with an object accidently being owned by a user.
The "SA" user should actually be disabled. If DBAs actually need "SA" privs to do their jobs, for reasons of traceability, it should be a part of their privs instead of having them login as "SA" or some other common login.
If you need the 3 or 4 part naming convention because some object is in another database or even on another server /instance, DON'T use the 3 or 4 part naming convention even then. Instead, setup a synonym to do the job for you. If the name of a database changes or is moved to a different server, it's MUCH easier to redefine a handful of synonyms than it is to find all of the 3 and 4 part naming in code and changing it.
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January 12, 2014 at 12:37 pm
Many thanks guys
E
January 13, 2014 at 9:09 pm
Grant,
I read at brentozar.com:
http://www.brentozar.com/blitz/jobs-owned-by-user-accounts/
http://www.brentozar.com/blitz/database-owners/
So would you recommend striving towards not using SA (possibly even renaming/disabling it), and creating new accounts that are least privilege for specific purposes?
I've always setup the Windows service accounts in this way, but not so much for jobs and db owners (I did run into the scenario Brent presents where IT had disabled an old user account that had been used for running a handful of jobs)
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January 14, 2014 at 3:12 am
Still looking into this. SSA jobs will be set up under a different account and one that will not be discontiinued.
Still unsure on the database owner and may go SA
Thnaks for the links
E
January 14, 2014 at 3:48 am
dbassassin (1/13/2014)
Grant,I read at brentozar.com:
http://www.brentozar.com/blitz/jobs-owned-by-user-accounts/
http://www.brentozar.com/blitz/database-owners/
So would you recommend striving towards not using SA (possibly even renaming/disabling it), and creating new accounts that are least privilege for specific purposes?
I've always setup the Windows service accounts in this way, but not so much for jobs and db owners (I did run into the scenario Brent presents where IT had disabled an old user account that had been used for running a handful of jobs)
Yeah, pretty much. I've worked at the extreme end, where everything and everyone had 'sa' privs. It's impossible to manage. You're seriously better off if you can limit access as much as possible. Plus, depending on the type of company you're working for, you may need to for legal compliance reasons.
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January 14, 2014 at 10:06 am
Grant/Jeff
Would you say that using SA as the database owner or jobs account is not a preferred method. Did you make new user accounts for each purpose?
Jeff
Have you run into any issues when disabling/renaming the SA account?
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January 14, 2014 at 12:15 pm
I would use system administration ownership for packages and databases, yes, but not the 'sa' account. Two different critters.
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