May 3, 2010 at 10:01 am
Hey Guys,
My company is looking to upgrade to 2008 and purchase new hardware as well. Being that I come from a software development backround I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers as to what is the ideal hardware setup for SQL? I realize this is subjective but I'm looking for what is best and what is reasonable.
Thanks!
May 3, 2010 at 10:09 am
I'll give the short answer: It Depends.
To give a more detailed answer we would need to know more about what you are doing. dedicated server? DASD, SAN, NAS? Number of databases/instances? And the list here could go on.
May 3, 2010 at 10:40 am
Hi Lynn,
I guess I should have clarified a little more. The stuff you mentioned is what I am looking for. Should I go with a NAS or SAN, how many spindles, how many processors, how much memory, etc.
What I can tell you is that we have 2 instances, 150+ databases, and about a Gig of new data per day coming in.
Thanks
May 3, 2010 at 10:43 am
bdavey (5/3/2010)
Hi Lynn,I guess I should have clarified a little more. The stuff you mentioned is what I am looking for. Should I go with a NAS or SAN, how many spindles, how many processors, how much memory, etc.
What I can tell you is that we have 2 instances, 150+ databases, and about a Gig of new data per day coming in.
Thanks
And some of that is driven by business requirements and budget.
May 3, 2010 at 10:48 am
You want lots of memory, enough CPU for your system load, and a few separate physical disks. These can be DASD or SAN, but you want to have data separate from logs if possible, and a third array for backups. That way you are protected. Be careful of using the SAN and piling the LUNs onto the same physicals.
May 3, 2010 at 10:49 am
Ok Lynn, how about this:
If you had $200K to spend on hardware, including storage, for an SQL server setup what would it be?
May 3, 2010 at 10:53 am
bdavey (5/3/2010)
Ok Lynn, how about this:If you had $200K to spend on hardware, including storage, for an SQL server setup what would it be?
It depends on what it's used for 🙂 There is no one size fit's all approach. And if you plan on clustering, your useable budget just took a big hit.
Memory, # CPU's, disk (SAN or otherwise), are all dependant on what the server will be used for.
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May 3, 2010 at 10:56 am
Still not enough. You mention 150+ databases, adding 1GB new data daily. How much space is needed for the existing databases, how much extra disk space do you need based on the growth? When do you need to add storage space or upgrade the SAN, NAS, etc.
Do you want rack servers or are you going to use blade servers?
It still comes down to "It Depends."
What are your business requirements, SLA's, data storage, not just databases but backups, and how many? Are you going to use/need backup deduplication (that alone could add 180,000 to your price tag by the way).
May 3, 2010 at 11:10 am
Gregory,
How about if we ask is there an existing system? Taking guesses on new servers without any history is hard. Any ideas on how much data/activity this system will see v some other server you have?
Adding 1GB a day doesn't necessarily help. Is 1GB being added in 8 hours? 1 hour? 24 hours? The load can be much different.
There's no ideal; it's like saying what's the best car? Best for what? A diesel pickup works in some situations better than a Ferrari. Not in others.
You want enough CPU, lots of RAM (I'd be thinking 8GB+ these days), and enough disk to handle your needs for 6months to a year, accounting for backups on separate devices. $200k is a lot, at least to me. I would be surprised that a 365GB a year db needs that cost.
May 3, 2010 at 11:14 am
Thanks Lynn, Greg, & Steve. I think I see the error of may ways now. Let me define this a little more.
It is a single cluster environment (1 active, 1 passive).
It is about 90% OLTP (10% warehouse).
It has 2 instances with 150+ databases.
The total space consumed, excluding backups, is about 500 Gig.
Space is expected to grow at about a 500 Mb/day.
We expect to replace our hardware every 5 years.
Rack mount is definitely prefered.
Not concerned with SLA's at this point.
Backup replication & storage does not need to be considered in this purchase.
The majority of the growth occurs during normal U.S. business hours.
$200k is the very maximum. I would probably scale down from this.
May 3, 2010 at 11:18 am
Actually, for a database server that needs to host 150+ databases, I'd be looking at a minimum of 64GB to 128GB ram, more would be better.
IIRC, our network services group purchased a 16TB iSCSI san for storing backup files (database, file server, email, etc) and dedup software as well instead of a dedicated hardware appliance for around 32K, maybe a bit more.
May 3, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Here is a link that might be of interest for you. Since you have around 200K budget, you could take a look at it. It is a TPC Benchmark.
-Roy
May 3, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Roy,
Thank you! Very cool site.
May 3, 2010 at 12:38 pm
I hope it will help you. I actually got it today morning from a friend of mine. If we had this site, it would have been easy for us when we set up our server. We had to do it the hard way (Experimenting with different HW set ups for IO) before we found one similar to what they had stated.
-Roy
May 4, 2010 at 6:13 am
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