The Unusable User

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The Unusable User

Andy Warren

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March 25, 2014 at 8:56 pm

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March 26, 2014 at 2:21 am

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free_mascot One Orange Chip Points: 27169 More actions · Answer 1

Indeed a good question Andy, Thank you.

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Koen Verbeeck SSC Guru Points: 259105 More actions · Answer 2

Great question, thanks.

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paul.knibbs SSCoach Points: 15320 More actions · Answer 3

One of those where I had no clue as to the answer so picked a random one to see what the real answer was--therefore I learned something today, which is always good! 🙂

Raghavendra Mudugal SSChampion Points: 10658 More actions · Answer 4

Good one Andy, Very very different one.. 🙂

(I got the answer wrong, what I did is created the user (one query) and just mapped to the database (another query), but in both no role was set. I then logged in as this new user and tried to query the table and it gave permission error and then I executed another query in the admin window for adding role, when I disconnected and connected with new user and checked the output was seen. So I thought of the orphaned option thinking might be role has not been associated.)

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george sibbald SSC Guru Points: 104210 More actions · Answer 5

3 easy points blown.

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Neil Burton SSC-Insane Points: 22999 More actions · Answer 6

It's possible that he is in the wrong context, but we'll assume based on the intro that he is in the correct place.

I'm admittedly a bit of a newbie and certainly a BI developer rather than a DBA, so I accept that I'm going to get a lot of the questions wrong. However, when an explanation starts with 'we'll assume' I feel a bit cheated. I know that assuming something is a certain way is a surefire way to waste a lot of time. I'm sure that everybody has had a conversation along the lines of:

You/them, 'have you checked..?',

You/them, 'it's definitely .....',

You/them, 'yeah, but have you checked it?

You/them, 'oh'

Don't get me wrong, I learn something every time, I just feel that answers that make assumptions can stack the deck against getting the answer right, particularly when the assumption can rule in\out a valid answer.

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Toreador SSChampion Points: 11365 More actions · Answer 7

It's possible that he is in the wrong context, but we'll assume based on the intro that he is in the correct place.

Nope, based on the preamble

first confirming the login exists on the instance and then finding that it does not exist in the database used by the application

it's clear that although he's in the right context, he's checked the wrong database by mistake.

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sestell1 SSChampion Points: 10230 More actions · Answer 8

Toreador (3/26/2014)
It's possible that he is in the wrong context, but we'll assume based on the intro that he is in the correct place.
Nope, based on the preamble
first confirming the login exists on the instance and then finding that it does not exist in the database used by the application
it's clear that although he's in the right context, he's checked the wrong database by mistake.
😉

I agree, being in the wrong database seemed like a much more likely scenario to me.

Especially since there was no use statement preceding the command.

Had the command included a use statement for the appropriate database, then I would have assumed the more obscure answer since there was no mention of a database restore.

ssimmons 2102 SSCommitted Points: 1634 More actions · Answer 9

Since there was no Use statement, being in the wrong database seem to be the most likey answer to me.

WayneS SSC Guru Points: 95460 More actions · Answer 10

Great question Andy

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SQLRNNR SSC Guru Points: 281334 More actions · Answer 11

Thanks Andy. I enjoy this style of questions you have been doing.

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Andy Warren SSC Guru Points: 119902 More actions · Answer 12

Jason, thanks for that. I'm experimenting a little, trying to see what works.

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timwell SSCertifiable Points: 5315 More actions · Answer 13

I have a suggestion: You say:

Theodore saw the error message, made a change, and went back to answering the QOTD.

I think you might have made the description more clear if it said:

Theodore saw the error message, made a change to the script, ran it again, and went back to answering the QOTD.

(I made the wrong guess based on that ambiguity)

Thanks for the QOD. I learned something as usual.