best way to interact with MSDE

  • hiya,

    I found myself installing sqlServer dev edition onto a machine that contained MSDE, simply so that I could use enterprise manager to :

    1) attach a database

    2) create a new user.

    That can't be right 🙁 

     Is osql the recommended way to interact with MSDE, so that I can miss out the enterprise manager middleman?

    many thanks,

    yogi

  • If you do not want to use the Enterprise Manager, you can try with Access.  But I had a client that used MSDE for field operations and I really prefered using Enterprise Manager to manipulate their database - I could even connect over the network if they were somewhere else but able to log into Citrix...

    I wasn't born stupid - I had to study.

  • yogiberr,

    for remote admin and development i have started to give some of our developers 'Microsoft SQL Web Data Administrator'

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c039a798-c57a-419e-acbc-2a332cb7f959&displaylang=en

    it has a jazzy security admin tool, allowing you to create and edit logins and users.

    for attaching databases i think you will still have to use system sprocs, but you can manage a heck of a lot with 'Microsoft SQL Web Data Administrator' if you have a dig around.

    regards,

    lloyd

    p.s. it requires the .NET framework to be installed

     

  • hiya,

    I'll look into 'Microsoft SQL Web Data Administrator' sounds quite good.(we're dotnet people 🙂

    I am curious though, as to the main reason for using osql.Is it so that "seasoned" users can manipulate the db quicker thru a commandline, rather than having to open up EM and point and click?

    ta for the advice so far, 

    yogi

  • hi there,

    visit the following website and you will find vb source code for your own version of enterprise manager.

    http://www.planetsourcecode.com/

    regards

    zaid

  • You can just install Enterprise Manager without the dev version of SQLServer database. I believe that you can install Enterprise Manager on as many machines as you want.

    I have read that with the SQLServer 2005 MSDE (Express) you can no longer use Enterprise Manager. MS makes you use a much less "feature rich" tool.

  • Hi Grasshopper,

    It wasn't the fact that I couldn't install EM on as many machines as I wanted.It was the fact that I didn't think that I should have to install EM on the machine, simply because I wanted to do a few simple things to the database.

    Thanks for taking the time to reply everyone.

    I appreciate it.

    yogi

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